Modern games on a CRT...

Gamefreak501 said:
I remember how much the circa 1996-1998 Packard Bell monitor flickered on the families old Pentium 120. I swear it contributed to my bad eyesight! Maybe it was a badly manufactured one or something, I didn't notice it as much on later CRT monitors.

Did anyone else experience that flickering?

Very interesting watch though, shame I love my desk space, could have avoided my 10 or so video card upgrades over the years if I stuck with CRT and didn't go with LCD/LED!
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As said, I found when I first turned it on the flickering at 60Hz was unbearable. 75Hz is OK, 85Hz is not really noticeable to me. The monitor I have can do 100Hz at 800x600 and that looks great in terms of flicker (there is none).

I would love to have my hands on a 19" or similar that can do a higher resolution at 85Hz+; that must be fantastic for games.

edscdk said:
No the picture was rubbish you just remember it as being good.. Fire up the same rig today, compare to a modern rig and you would instantly turn it off and bin it..
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If you're binning one you may want to check eBay or offer it up here first!

The picture is bad for desktop work. Honestly, text isn't very readable compared to LCD and if the geometry isn't perfect it's really noticeable. Peak brightness isn't good and I'm guessing a new LCD that was calibrated may provide better colours. However, in games or video you don't really notice those things and what you gain is worth it in terms of smoothness, response and depth to the image.

The best setup would be a decent CRT for gaming with an LCD for desktop/productivity and maybe some of the games that don't play nice with 4:3 aspect ratio etc.
 
No LCD I owned came close to the best CRT's. However, my CX48 OLED is vastly superior to any CRT, for both gaming and media.

LCD = Good for work only. OLED for everything else :)
 
Seems almost crazy now that we control all of those millions of pixels individually. Back in the day that was a crazy notion.
 
I think some of the prices on eBay are a bit mad, given how old most will be and how they could go wrong at any time (and would be very difficult to fix or repair). I guess the scarcity drives the prices up, especially for low use or mint examples where the picture will be sharper.

If you look at things like Sony PVM and BVM CRT prices on there you'll also see they're pretty crazy given what it actually is, but again, supply is low and they are about the pinnacle for retro gaming.

You're more likely to find a good deal by asking around or checking the local curbs on bin day, frankly. I've not seen any 19" or higher models come up locally though, they do seem to be difficult to find and I've been looking for a couple of months.

EDIT: I did open a wanted thread in the MM but honestly I'm not prepared to pay hundreds for something so old. Tricky though, as I guess some are and/or intend to profit from the supply situation.
 
I remember when I first switched from CRT to LCD and the lag was horrific. Luckily back then games were pretty bad too and graphics cards were horrible.
 
I will post you all some hardcore CRT Pr0n when I can be bothered to drag them out the cupboard (heavy) and the 19" is in its original box with less than 2 years use. ;)


Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 92 (19")

Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 230SB (22")

Sony GDM-FW900 (24" 16:10)
 
JohnG7 said:
I will post you all some hardcore CRT Pr0n when I can be bothered to drag them out the cupboard (heavy) and the 19" is in its original box with less than 2 years use. ;)


Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 92 (19")

Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 230SB (22")

Sony GDM-FW900 (24" 16:10)
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Monitor envy. :D Mitsubishi, Sony and Iiyama were the brands to have. For a retro LCD I still pine for a NEC or IBM.

I picked up a Diamond Plus CRT but the coating was scratched, gutted as a lovely screen but the damage was obvious during use. The Mitsub was always one I wanted back in the 2000's.
 
I bought a Dell P1230 for £100 quid refurbed when people were starting to go to flat things.
It died after a couple of years and I replaced it with 2 more, BNIB £80 delivered for the pair.
I asked the guy on a well known auction site if I could have two. He said he had a warehouse full. They came on a pallet...
They're in the shed somewhere. One's face down on a slab, the other is face down on top of it. Probably knackered now.
 
Had one of the cheaper 19" Iiyamas, not as flat as the ones in this thread :p Still got it tbh and last time I turned it on was several years ago and seemed to have dimmed a fair bit. Did 1600x1200 @ 75Hz iirc - 60Hz was horrible flickering though!
 
JohnG7 said:
I will post you all some hardcore CRT Pr0n when I can be bothered to drag them out the cupboard (heavy) and the 19" is in its original box with less than 2 years use. ;)


Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 92 (19")

Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 230SB (22")

Sony GDM-FW900 (24" 16:10)
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Dont suppose you want to flog the Sony? :)
 
I still use CRT TVs for my old consoles (Sega Mega Drive, Saturn and PS1 etc.), but could never go back to using them for modern PC (or console) gaming. I liked them back in the day when games were designed to use a 4:3 ratio and they were much better than the early 4:3 LCD screens which were awful! I've had a few decent CRT screens with one of my favourites being a flat type CRT made by Apricot which I cannot find info on anywhere! It was similar to a flat type Dell CRT I used to have with my Pentium MMX Optiplex system that had a nice Maxi Gamer 3DFX Voodoo card :cool:.
 
edscdk said:
No the picture was rubbish you just remember it as being good.. Fire up the same rig today, compare to a modern rig and you would instantly turn it off and bin it..
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I'm sure this is true.

I had a 21" Sony Trinitron ~2000-2003, I remember it it being amazing... however I also remember getting a 20" TN screen and being happy to sell the Sony. That 20" TN panel was rubbish compared to my current 1440UW IPS so can't image the Trinitron would be up to much these days.
 
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