Modern Warfare 2 is going P2P.

I cant see this happening. Take for example wow. You pay £9 a month (or less if bought in bulk) for a pretty decent game. It has decent support, constant updates etc etc.

With cod being sub based, well which of the above do you have? If they charged people a sub they need to provide a service to go with it and activision do not have a hope doing that imo. Activision are just plain greedy.
Don't forget that WoW also use this money to host their servers, where as CoD is completely hosted by the client :(
 
Yep say CoD provided excellent hosted servers with full time vigilant admins present to kick cheaters and lamers, I'd think a few quid a month wouldn't seem unreasonable.

If it was £9 a month for what we get now though... no way.
 
why is it so unlikely ?

WSJ: If you could snap your fingers, and instantly make one change in your company, what would it be, and why?

Mr. Kotick: I would have Call of Duty be an online subscription service tomorrow. When you think about what the audience's interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities, I would love to see us have an online Call of Duty world. I think our players would just have so much of a more compelling experience.

WSJ: Is that coming?

Mr. Kotick: Hopefully.

He said hopefully, not that he cant, he said he hopes he can, to hope he must think he has some chance. I dont think we should be writing the chances of them pulling it off so readily.
 
As long as morons keep buying trash like MW2 en masse the likelihood of subscription based gaming, or increased charges will rise.

They already pushed up the RRP for no good reason other than to squeeze more money out of their customers. A strategy which was highly successful as a great deal of people still bought it.

I expect they could add another £10 onto the RRP for the next one and it would still sell. So it stands to reason to predict that they'll try to exploit the stupidity of their customers in other ways too.

Don't forget to keep buying the DLC as well!
 
COD already has a subscription service. Its called "Map packs" currently going for £10.99 a piece on Steam. When you consider they bring out a new game every year (ok I know Modern Warfare is every 2 years at the moment)
You don't have to be a genius to realise they could have a sub based model that would give people map packs, better upgrades for weapons, more xp, etc. and millions of people would pay for it. (especially on consoles)
Just to be clear I don't like the multiplayer in MW2 and wouldn't be one of them but it is inevitable.
 
well if they're taking more away from the classic formula as they did with MW2 they'll not be seeing a penny from me. I boycotted MW2 and still don't own it, even after being a fairly strong supporter of the series, right from the start through to WaW.
A sub service on a franchise like CoD is probably necessary in times like these, but they really will have to pull out all the stops to make it something that the players would use.
 
I cant believe that im going to say this but... If sub payment provides constant content like a mmo + stop stuff like hackers + cheats etc then why not? If the price is right ofcourse. Some people play fps shooters just as much as a person who plays a mmo.

But if the game is just a typical fps with no plans on having regular content added, then i dont see the point other then just pure greed from Activision.

All the people who hate on MW2 saying its the worst fps ever made need there head checked. If you take away the lobby system + hackers and cheats for pc version, the game is probably the most fun online fps game ever made.
 
They have been using the same engine for years, it looks crap compared to BC2 on my PC and run both games maxed, in fact since I bought BC2 I have played MW2 once and an uninstall followed. Its an old cash cow that being milked dry and they are looking for new ways to milk it
 
COD already has a subscription service. Its called "Map packs" currently going for £10.99 a piece on Steam. When you consider they bring out a new game every year (ok I know Modern Warfare is every 2 years at the moment)
You don't have to be a genius to realise they could have a sub based model that would give people map packs, better upgrades for weapons, more xp, etc. and millions of people would pay for it. (especially on consoles)
Just to be clear I don't like the multiplayer in MW2 and wouldn't be one of them but it is inevitable.

but thats not enough though

Kotick wants more !!!
 
Now i dislike Kotick as much as anyone, BUT if it's done right i think it could be ok.

For example £5-9 a month you get...

- Dedicated servers
- Admins and moderators
- Map Packs
- Regular upgrades and new content
- Tournament play
- Guild / Group / Team play and match-ups
- Proper mass online game types, and i mean big wars like in Planetside, not small squad v squad stuff.

...maybe it might work in that case, and for me the last point is the biggest, if they can give me lag free servers with constant mass global warfare (again like Planetside) then i would be tempted.

If it's just existing MP with included map packs and a couple updates here and there then they can go screw, if i'm paying mmorpg prices then i want an mmorpg game scope, with masses of customisations and things to do.

They may look at the number of people who bought map packs as a guide but that's a whole different level to monthly subs.

Edit* Alternatively if they go with the Apple price point hit of about £2.99 a month for maps packs and upgrades then i can well imagine it would get a lot of subs.
 
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- Dedicated servers
- Admins and moderators
- Map Packs
- Regular upgrades and new content
- Tournament play
- Guild / Group / Team play and match-ups

So everything you get for free with competing fps?


- Proper mass online game types, and i mean big wars like in Planetside, not small squad v squad stuff.

Not going to happen as the primary development platform is the consoles, they can't support that so you won't get it.
 
If it's just existing MP with included map packs and a couple updates here and there then they can go screw, if i'm paying mmorpg prices then i want an mmorpg game scope, with masses of customisations and things to do.

of course thats what it will be.
 
There was an article soon after the release of MW2 that they were looking at subscriptions for later releases so I'm not surprised at this news. We all knew that IW.net was the first step in this process since they can control all the game content for DLC and subs since gamers won't be able to play custom maps.

Games like MW2 (or Battlefield games) that use experience with unlocks would work quite well as MMOFPS', though they'd need to offer more in-game content updates/patches and watch for game balance.
 
Oh yeah on the subject of Iw net, where are all the people that had a go at me for saying "Iw net will = paid for map packs on the pc" :o:D
 
For example £5-9 a month you get...

1- Dedicated servers
2- Admins and moderators
3- Map Packs
4- Regular upgrades and new content
5- Tournament play
6- Guild / Group / Team play and match-ups
7- Proper mass online game types, and i mean big wars like in Planetside, not small squad v squad stuff.

Edit* Alternatively if they go with the Apple price point hit of about £2.99 a month for maps packs and upgrades then i can well imagine it would get a lot of subs.

1: They already charge for servers in some games, back to my point, I can host my own, so why should I need to pay?
2: Realistically I can't see this being succesful or worth it, from their point of view.
3: All the best games have community made maps (free) :(
4: Agree, but new content in an FPS is limited to guns and maps, which again usually end up being rehashed models, that takes 1 guy to make in a day charged at a ridiculous price. Community made maps...or mods, always win. (free!!!)
5: Tournaments? They are a dime a dozen, plenty out there to join and play in and free.
6: Guild/group team play? I think that's up to YOU to organise! :)
7: Mass online game types? This is then an MMOFPS, which I agree having a monthly sub for. But small type fps shooters? no.
 
£5-9/month, plus £55/year to buy the inevitable annual retail release of the next game, which conveniently makes the previous release obsolete.

I'd pay £5/month for something like Quake Live, if it did all those things. As that's a far superior gaming platform and crucially it's not going to be replaced year on year with a sequel.
 
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