Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

And when he gets penalty after penalty making him more angry? I'm all for anger helping a driver but he's made himself look rather silly this weekend blaming all and sundry. I'm not a Hamilton fan, met him and thought he was a complete ***k, and that is why I don't like him. However, I'm also for someone who respects their sport and thinks before they open their trap

Except he's right, look at the replays, even with hitting hammy, maldanado didn't make the apex.
 
How can we differ, the video evidence is. There, even after hitting hammy, he didn't make the corner.
I can't see how you can argue with that, it's there on video tape. For all to see.

Mass a one is slightly different and I think it could have gone either way with the stewards. But maldandao one is rediculuse.
 
*even* after being hit by Hamilton? How does being knocked off your line by another car make driving easier?

I think it's up to the driver passing to make it stick, people talk about DRS being artificial but that is nothing like as fake as saying you can't defend your line.

He means that Maldonado didnt take the actual racing line and get the apex. Instead he just turned very early into Hamilton in a rash move to block him off.

Even after having Hamilton as a buffer he still slightly cut the corner meaning if Hamilton wasnt there he would have gone straight over the rumble strips and cut the corner completely! In the video just look at the difference between when the HRT turns into the corner and when Maldonado does.

This it is clear from the video that he turned into hammy for no reason, it certainly wasn't to make the corner as he still didn't make it.
 
Don't drivers usually go off the racing line to defend? Hence why you see people behind quickly catching up a racing pair once someone gets into defensive mode.

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You can defend and move position,generally not when someone is along side you and generally not into someone else. You have to make the move before the corner and basically block the track when the car is still behind you.

This is not what happened here.


Racing incident yes I agree, not a penalty.

And still isn't what happened with maldanado.
 
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He wasn't reckles, you seem to be missing the point that maldanado turned in far to early and if hammy wasn't there to act as a bumper wouldn't of hit the corner at at all, even with the hammy there he went well over the kerns.
If he had stuck to the racing line fine, but he didn't even come close to the racing linens actually turned and went of track.
 
I accept you can't overtake at Monaco, that's no reason to allow dangerous and reckless overtakes.

Knock it off the Calendar by all means, but don't make apologies for drivers wrecking other drivers / teams races.

He wasn't reckles, you seem to be missing the point that maldanado turned in far to early and if hammy wasn't there to act as a bumper wouldn't of hit the corner at at all, even with hammy there he went well over the kerbs.
If he had stuck to the racing line fine, but he didn't even come close to the racing line, he actually turned and went of track.
 
So you blame JV for Jerez then? He wouldn't have made the corner either.

No idea, can't even remember it. And it makes no difference. If the leader turns his car of the racing line and actually of the track. Then how can that be blamed on the overtakes? If he followed. The racing line and the overtakes hit him in the side fair enough, racing incident or penalty depending on how bad it was.
 
If he was do badly off line why didn't Hamilton brake, let him take his silly line and then take him after - that's racing.

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Watch the video, he doesn't have time to do anything. He turns sharply hits hammy on the way off the track.

He was online, hammy comes up the side. He then turns well before the corner, hits hammy and even with hammy blocking, he still drives straight over the kerbing.
 
Rubbish he's a racing driver with the best brakes money can buy not a chav in a fiesta.

I can only respond by saying look at the video and the rate of change of direction, doesn't matter what brakes he has, there is still reaction time and where to go. malanado simply turns and doesn't come close to making the corner.
 
I'm happy it's secure. I like the races there I find them interesting and a great watch. I think the year should be made up of different race track types and one a season when it is about staying within the lines is great.

Just need more consistent fia rulings, but that applies to all tracks.
I still think one of the biggest problems in f1 now they have rid of double diffuser, is lack of horsepower. Drives should be having to feather tepee throttle and the back end should want to step out and no 100% corners. Do that and you'll find the brave drivers smash amazing lap times. In as well as more mistakes and far more potential of overtaking.

If not more horsepower half the wing size and further aero fins and the like.
 
That's all well and good saying they have passed inspection. Hiwver there's another rules saying it is to be no coder than x-mm when racing. RBR clearly break that. So the sensible thing would be fia to enforce the rule, or like team orders, throw the rules out. It does nark me this incositency, either apply the rules or remove them.
 
the FIA has made it pretty clear they are allowing it, are all the teams supposed to go home in a sulk and not race until they tell the bad boys to stop breaking the rules?

They should be copying it.

My point was aimed at fia rather than the teams, I don't understand why they have rules which they don't enforce, why not either change the tests which they can do at any time they like, or like team orders, make it clear that they are going to ignore it and remove it at the end of the season.

I just don't get FIAs stance. Want to save money but could ban it at any time they wanted especially if they start hitting the ground.
 
Really? I have an unbiased opinion of him but he just strikes me as a petulant, immature child with these outbursts at everyone around him and NEVER himself.

The boy needs to grow into a man and accept some responsibility or he'll never get anywhere as close to the greatness of Schumacher or Senna ... part of the reason why Schumi was / is so great is the way he envelopes people around him from within the garage, yet all Hamilton seems to do is push people away.

If I was his mechanic I'd think **** it, why put all my efforts into building him a decent car if that's how he's gonna act.

Nearly all to drivers have been like that. It's part and parcel of being a top driver.
 
Some of the Hamilton fanboyism on here and other forums is legendary. He can do no wrong to some people ahaa.

If that was aimed at me, I've been annoyed with him in the past and find it annoying. However look at how top drivers are , they are all the same. Senna rants, MSC crashes, there was a good documentary on Graham hill at the start of the season with his abussive relationship with mechanics,
 
I can't see anything affecting RBR that much. I can't see it being down to one thing. Just a little hear and there but all working together. It might bring them closer in reach, but I still think they will be fastest. Only time will tell.

For example if EBD is giving them a bit, then they might have to run a more normal rear wing, which will lose qualifying pace, but could give them an even bigger advantage in the race.
 
Brundle good grid walk.
Terrible commentator, just listen to r5l one weekend. And you'll suddenly realise how terrible he is.

And how the hell do you reply to something on twitter?
 
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Still prefer the combo over Legard. I was irritated by Brundle's comments at the end of the race referring back to their commentary as if it was gospel.

Who cares still pants compared to 90% of commentators. Really wish BBC looked else where and shouldn't be scared of change.
 
In one of the rule threads I posted a video by an American, who does loads of YouTube vids on varies motor sports. Can any one find it? I've tried searching but I can't find it. Want to subscribe to his videos on YouTube.
 
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