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Causing offence?
Monkey mascot acceptable in 2021?
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Causing offence?
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This is literally turning into a "i know you are but what am I".
You said it, not me.
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To clarify, i personally think its an over reaction and using a monkey is ok but in the society we live in where every single companies advertising/social media etc is scrutinised, sometimes it isn't worth the potentional backlash.
The fact this thread exists shows the hesitation in our 2021 society...we have people called monkeys during football games, social media etc in a horrifically derogatory way and its really sad that now people are questioning if a specific animal can be used in an advert etc..this is what I mean about being too close to the line about "causing offence".
This is literally turning into a "i know you are but what am I".
You said it, not me.
I can easily suggest something which will cause offense, thus backing up my argument.
You claim that there are some things which aren't offensive, but I challenge you to give an example of something which I can't take offense to
I can easily suggest something which will cause offense, thus backing up my argument.
You claim that there are some things which aren't offensive, but I challenge you to give an example of something which I can't take offense to
Haggis.
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The what now?
Context is important here though - what stories are you thinking of?
Black kid with a "coolest monkey in the jungle" top on etc..?
The PG tips adverts aren't controversial, are they?
CustardI can easily suggest something which will cause offense, thus backing up my argument.
You claim that there are some things which aren't offensive, but I challenge you to give an example of something which I can't take offense to
You mean other than the fact it has a very clear resemblance to semen and so is clearly symbolising male superiority over women? Are you some kind of woman hating misogynist? People like you make me sick!
Woah, let's just get straight in there with the cultural appropriation!
If your semen has a very clear resemblance to custard you need to see a doctor!!You mean other than the fact it has a very clear resemblance to semen and so is clearly symbolising male superiority over women? Are you some kind of woman hating misogynist? People like you make me sick!
if your custard has a very clear resemblance to semen you need to see a chef!!
If your semen has a very clear resemblance to custard you need to see a doctor!!
if your custard has a very clear resemblance to semen you need to see a chef!!
And if your custard tastes of Semen. Youve upset the chef
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Along these lines, I can't see how White City and Whitehall in London don't cause offense.
Rainbow City and Rainbowhall perhaps?
Rainbow City and Rainbowhall perhaps?
Can't use rainbow, has links to the lgbt community
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I can easily suggest something which will cause offense, thus backing up my argument.
You claim that there are some things which aren't offensive, but I challenge you to give an example of something which I can't take offense to
Oh god!
This is becoming very nit (knit?) picky but I do see what you're saying. Welllllll....a monkey is more offence than calling someone a giraffe? I am keeping with the animal theme? Agree to disagree?
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https://news.sky.com/story/crystal-...action-after-disgusting-racist-abuse-12456217
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-air-jordans-bartlett-high-school/8368373002/
This is a very quickly google though but my angle is, this particular animal, is one that creates debate/used during racism.
PG Tips is an interesting one actually and it seems to have not been involved at all from what I can see...! I do agree "how could anyone find monkeys offensive?" but its been used in an offensive way really.
Clearly you guys are using custard with too much artificial colouring
Well, as Dowie said, context is key.
A monkey mascot for a zoo? Fine.
A monkey mascot for a company specialising in Afro-Caribbean ready meals? Might want to rethink that one!
If you started calling someone with an unusually long neck "giraffe boy/girl", then it wouldn't be too surprising for them to take offense (if they were particularly sensitive about it), in fact to be honest, insinuating that someone is "animal like" is generally insulting, e.g.:
"dog" - ugly
"pig" - fat/disgusting
"<female dog>" - horrible person (usually female), see also "cow"
"<slang name for cat>" - coward
"(loan,card, etc.) shark" - cutthroat and generally nasty
"ape" - even ignoring the racial links, this still suggests someone who is generally a bit thick and tends to solve their problems "physically"
"whale" - fat
"snake" - devious/backstabbing
Oh god!
This is becoming very nit (knit?) picky but I do see what you're saying. Welllllll....a monkey is more offence than calling someone a giraffe? I am keeping with the animal theme? Agree to disagree?
Well, as Dowie said, context is key.
A monkey mascot for a zoo? Fine.
A monkey mascot for a company specialising in Afro-Caribbean ready meals? Might want to rethink that one!
If you started calling someone with an unusually long neck "giraffe boy/girl", then it wouldn't be too surprising for them to take offense (if they were particularly sensitive about it), in fact to be honest, insinuating that someone is "animal like" is generally insulting, e.g.:
"dog" - ugly
"pig" - fat/disgusting
"<female dog>" - horrible person (usually female), see also "cow"
"<slang name for cat>" - coward
"(loan,card, etc.) shark" - cutthroat and generally nasty
"ape" - even ignoring the racial links, this still suggests someone who is generally a bit thick and tends to solve their problems "physically"
"whale" - fat
"snake" - devious/backstabbing
I've always found the Scotch to be very laid back, and don't tend to hold grudges.
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Clearly you guys are using custard with too much artificial colouring
Well, as Dowie said, context is key.
A monkey mascot for a zoo? Fine.
A monkey mascot for a company specialising in Afro-Caribbean ready meals? Might want to rethink that one!
If you started calling someone with an unusually long neck "giraffe boy/girl", then it wouldn't be too surprising for them to take offense (if they were particularly sensitive about it), in fact to be honest, insinuating that someone is "animal like" is generally insulting, e.g.:
"dog" - ugly
"pig" - fat/disgusting
"<female dog>" - horrible person (usually female), see also "cow"
"<slang name for cat>" - coward
"(loan,card, etc.) shark" - cutthroat and generally nasty
"ape" - even ignoring the racial links, this still suggests someone who is generally a bit thick and tends to solve their problems "physically"
"whale" - fat
"snake" - devious/backstabbing
Yes very true - see this angle.
I am curious to know if the OP is purely hypothetical or whether we will find out more information about the promotion.
On a related note, until you listed the animals, I had no idea there were so many 'linked' to attributes/characteristics of a person...! I am aware of all them but not seen them listed.