More ignorant Sony news

It is funny they come out and say this, yet, apparently, in the August issue of EGM in the rumour mill it says that Sony are paying Epic large sums of money to make UT3 better for the PS3 and the PS3 exclusive title.
 
I think saying to a company "heres $50 million to keep this content exclusive to our console" to say working with Epic and saying "heres some money and technical resources to make your engine work better on a PS3" is a big difference. Guess it depends on your point of view, ones like going to a lady of ill repute for a bit of fun ;) , the other is like taking a nice girl out to dinner buying her a few gifts to have a bit of fun! Both cost money but one seems more dirty :D
 
msmalls74 said:
I think saying to a company "heres $50 million to keep this content exclusive to our console" to say working with Epic and saying "heres some money and technical resources to make your engine work better on a PS3" is a big difference. Guess it depends on your point of view, ones like going to a lady of ill repute for a bit of fun ;) , the other is like taking a nice girl out to dinner buying her a few gifts to have a bit of fun! Both cost money but one seems more dirty :D

But one has a guaranteed outcome ;)
 
JUMPURS said:
But one has a guaranteed outcome ;)

Exactly, if you pay for exclusives then you will have them!, but if you rely on good working relationships, developer help, good sales, good machine you will not guarantee exclusives but you will gain developer support and that may lead to exclusives. This may lead the developers to think, (rose tinted mode) well we worked together well last time, game sold well, gained useful information developing for their product, it will be a pleasure to work with them again on this project and maybe make it exclusive for them as we now have the know how to code for it. Im not saying that microsoft dont do things this way too, but surely its better to have a company come to you with an idea like little big planet and say "hey we got this think you'll like it can you help us improve it?" then a company to say heres $50 million make us some good exclusive content or else we'll take our money back! I know under which condition id rather work under, but in the end companies want to make money and if "selling them selves " is they way to get it then its up to them.
 
If they make a game that look good enuff because of the ps3 power and has a lot more featuers then it sells its self. If sony decides not to buy the exclusives then they just have to be careful that not one else is going to buy it
 
Jihad said:
It's kinda like Sony = quality product. (Reliablity), Blu-Ray. Microsoft = Better software (Currently) and online service. (Optional HD-DVD)

I don't really mind, I have both so I can't lose here but that's the real comparison at the moment.

Totally agree, although Sony's software can only improve over the next 6-8 months (especially if the likes of MGS4 arrive pre-xmas???) yet MS haven't/don't want to address the issue with their hardware (so it seems)?

Also Blu-ray (certainly in the UK) seems to have more titles available and becoming available in the near future. The HD-DVD catalogue seems very sparse over here with only a couple of decent films arriving every so often.
 
Edz said:
Totally agree, although Sony's software can only improve over the next 6-8 months (especially if the likes of MGS4 arrive pre-xmas???)
Its a lot easier for Sony to solve their software problem since all they need to do is get the games out there (which will happen over time with little help from Sony) or simply update the firmware which they can easily do over the PSN

Edz said:
yet MS haven't/don't want to address the issue with their hardware (so it seems)?
MS on the otherhand have around 10.5 million 360's in peoples homes worldwide. Each one is a ticking time bomb just waiting to fail, only thing they can do is repair the consoles as they come in to be fixed, which they have started to do anyway rather than send back refurbs. For future sales they need to improve the insides which they have attempted to do with a heatsink redesign (that probably wont work either :p). And if they admited they mucked up it would be financial suicide, since it would probably mean they would have to compensate everyone.

I'm not defending MS, but this problem wont go away over night and isnt as easy to fix compared to Sony improving the software side of the PS3.
 
kalanium said:
MS on the otherhand have around 10.5 million 360's in peoples homes worldwide. Each one is a ticking time bomb just waiting to fail, only thing they can do is repair the consoles as they come in to be fixed, which they have started to do anyway rather than send back refurbs. For future sales they need to improve the insides which they have attempted to do with a heatsink redesign (that probably wont work either :p). And if they admited they mucked up it would be financial suicide, since it would probably mean they would have to compensate everyone.

I'm not defending MS, but this problem wont go away over night and isnt as easy to fix compared to Sony improving the software side of the PS3.

I totally agree, but I do think MS could be helping the issue by offering a longer warranty f.o.c, and when designing the elite made sure they addressed the issue (which I believe they haven't?).

Most owners know there's an issue with the 360, and by MS hiding from it is just making them look like they don't care... Also on top of that their now quoting 25+ days repair turnaround which is only going to annoy their consumers even more.
I strongly believe this time next year most users that can't justify or afford to have both consoles will opt for the better hardware as long as the software is available.
I believe Sony have got lucky because if the 360 didn't have this issue it would stomped the PS3 into the ground, MS really are fools to themselves..

Only time will tell I suppose but I see the hardware no different than the software. Most would rather wait longer for a quality product..


P.S. I do believe the PS3 needs a price drop to appeal to the masses tho, but hopefully that's only a matter of time.
 
exclusives kinda hurt the market too, i hated when GTA was exclusive to PS2, and when it finally came on PC, it was a BAD port, really bad. Went back to playing it not long after with a better rig and it was ok, then my pc died and i tried playing on ps2, wow, was it loads better on the PC, rubbish performance on the ps2. Anyways, Id like to see exclusives only being from first party developers really.. I dont think it remotely helps bring console prices down, as they dont drop in price enough, or often enough.. and when theres 3 it just gets too expensive, especially when i see consoles as easier casual multiplayer platforms, 3 consoles, with 4 controllers each, and said games? Havin a laugh.
 
I think games should be out on all platforms too. I have had to cut back to one console now as I just dont have the time to play the games I have let alone the games available on all systems - I still want to play the big titles when they come out though but I want to play them on the platform of my choice.
 
Joebob said:
I think games should be out on all platforms too. I have had to cut back to one console now as I just dont have the time to play the games I have let alone the games available on all systems - I still want to play the big titles when they come out though but I want to play them on the platform of my choice.
The problem is that we need competition to keep the industry on its toes and delivering high-quality games.
 
NokkonWud said:
The problem is that we need competition to keep the industry on its toes and delivering high-quality games.
if more games came out on all the platforms then there'd be more competition!
 
peetee said:
if more games came out on all the platforms then there'd be more competition!
No there wouldn't.

Say Microsoft pay 'x' million to 'a' company to produce a AAA game.
Sony then pay 'y' million to 'b' company to produce a better AAA game.

That's competition.
 
NokkonWud said:
No there wouldn't.

Say Microsoft pay 'x' million to 'a' company to produce a AAA game.
Sony then pay 'y' million to 'b' company to produce a better AAA game.

That's competition.

A company releases game on platform X&Y
B company releases game on playform X&Y

A makes 'r' million, heavily influenced by origionality/official licenses/quality of finished product.
B makes 't' million, heavily influenced by origionality/official licenses/quality of finished product.

Two games in the same market, competing for the same persons money, allowing said person choice of which console to buy, prompting console manufacturers to cut prices, increase functionality etc.

Both are competition I guess, just i see this as more competition in the market. If things wernt Xbox exclusive they might port to PC straight away!
Then id be happier.. because the wii gets different versions of everything.
 
gord said:
Now i know for a fact that those early PS3 adopters arnt getting a lot from their consoles by way of lack of games.

Now if Sony consider this to be the "good mix".. i'd hate to think what their bad mix is. Maybe they should consider funding some game development for their console.. because their current strategy isnt really working.

Have you changed you're name?!
 
I personally think its a bit naive (not arrogant) on Sonys part to assume that the ps3 is good enough as it is, they badly need exclusives to start winning back consumers...well thats my 2 cents.
 
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