More PC muppetry

VIRII said:
Because he is making a impossible, impracticable and unreasonable request?
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I don't see what's so "impossible, impracticable and unreasonable" about what he stated...

BBC News said:
Dr John Molyneux, from the University of Portsmouth, said the items should not be regarded simply as a childhood pastime or hobby.

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But Dr Molyneux said the original creation of the golly character has more sinister connection.

He said: "At the time that they were produced they were part of a racist atmosphere, of a racist attitude towards non-white people, very definitely. That's the history I don't want to be lost.

"Presenting them as just innocent children's play things is suppressing that real history."
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He's not even requested anything, other than that people don't forget the perceived racist connotations the character had in the past. Is it "impossible, impracticable and unreasonable" for you to consider that?

Edit: In fact, far from telling him to "**** off", I couldn't agree more with Dr Molyneux. Whether or not he is correct about the perceived racist connotations the character had in the past, it is clear that there is some controversy regarding the issue and I agree with him that people should not blindly ignore this fact. He hasn't even lodged a complaint about the exhibition, he has simply "criticised" it and somehow managed to gain the attention of a national news outlet in doing so. Whilst I digress that it's a rather trivial matter in the larger scheme of things, and I don't think his criticism should have gained the attention it has, I stand by his right to make such criticisms and I see nothing whatsoever wrong with what he has said.
 
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VIRII said:
No other possible origin has been given barring a shortening of "Gollywog" so there is no contemporary evidence to show that it is NOT an acronym.
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As I said, though, this isn't a binary choice. It's more than likely not an acronym; that doesn't mean it's a shortened form of "golliwog", there are an infinite number of other sources. All I said was that it's not an acronym, which you seem to have finally accepted (I hope) in the face of there being absolutely no evidence for such a proposition.
 
robmiller said:
As I said, though, this isn't a binary choice. It's more than likely not an acronym; that doesn't mean it's a shortened form of "golliwog", there are an infinite number of other sources. All I said was that it's not an acronym, which you seem to have finally accepted (I hope) in the face of there being absolutely no evidence for such a proposition.
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It may be "more than likely not an acronym". That is a fact.
But when you say "It's NOT an acronym" then that is not a fact because you can't prove it.
I have not claimed it to be a shortened form of Golliwog. I simply stated that the only two possible origins that you have put forward are the acronym that you claim it is not as a fact lol and that it is a shortened for of golliwog.
I have not claimed it to be a binary choice.
 
Al Vallario said:
I don't see what's so "impossible, impracticable and unreasonable" about what he stated...
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That would be because I thought I was replying to the special medicines and treatments for muslims thread and not the golliwog one....
 
He said: "At the time that they were produced they were part of a racist atmosphere, of a racist attitude towards non-white people, very definitely. That's the history I don't want to be lost. Presenting them as just innocent children's play things is suppressing that real history."

I presume the Dr is white and probably part of New labour and is once again telling the blacks what they want and telling them how to think.
They may have had a 'history' many decades ago but putting a Gollywog in a childs hands actually helped white kids to accept blacks. Every child loved their Gollywog and made such children think that blacks are OK.

To me Dr Molyneux is the racist because like a fool he has bought the subject up where everybody else would look at them as Gollywog toys.
What a prat.
 
dmpoole said:
I presume the Dr is white and probably part of New labour and is once again telling the blacks what they want and telling them how to think.
They may have had a 'history' many decades ago but putting a Gollywog in a childs hands actually helped white kids to accept blacks. Every child loved their Gollywog and made such children think that blacks are OK.

To me Dr Molyneux is the racist because like a fool he has bought the subject up where everybody else would look at them as Gollywog toys.
What a prat.
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Agreed, but that's exactly what political correctness is though isn't it - a bunch of terribly 'right-on', uptight whites getting themselves in a lather on behalf of some repressed minority who in most cases don't give a tuppeny toss about the issue at hand?

I had a golliwog as a child - it no more turned me into a racist than playing with a cap gun turned me into another Michael Ryan :mad: - while we're on that subject, presumably children aren't allowed to play Cowboys and Indians (sorry, "Native Americans") anymore, because the white cowboys always win?

When or if we have children, if they want to, they'll play the same games with the same sorts of toys that my wife and I did as when we were kids, and I couldn't give a flying **** if some Guardian-reading, lentil-eating tosspot is offended by it ... bloody people forcing their PC views on impressionable kids - makes me wanna puke :mad:

D33 said:
The guy likes to whine..

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/A/anatomists/opinions4.html
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A quote from that article:
It's purpose... is to force a face-to-face confrontation with the brute fact of death on a blasé modern audience for whom images of death are super-abundant while its reality becomes ever more removed and hidden. Short of exhibiting an actual human corpse this was about as far as Hirst could go
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Anybody who writes such a load of meaningless psychobabble about half a pickled shark in a tank of formaldehyde deserves nothing but contempt - the Modern Art movement is the biggest bloody con since the Hitler Diaries: the people who produce the crap, the fools who buy it and pompous, navel-gazing idiots like Molyneux who write such nebulous drivel about it ...
 
Adnams Drinker said:
Agreed, but that's exactly what political correctness is though isn't it - a bunch of terribly 'right-on', uptight whites getting themselves in a lather on behalf of some repressed minority who in most cases don't give a tuppeny toss about the issue at hand?

I had a golliwog as a child - it no more turned me into a racist than playing with a cap gun turned me into another Michael Ryan :mad: - while we're on that subject, presumably children aren't allowed to play Cowboys and Indians (sorry, "Native Americans") anymore, because the white cowboys always win?

When or if we have children, if they want to, they'll play the same games with the same sorts of toys that my wife and I did as when we were kids, and I couldn't give a flying **** if some Guardian-reading, lentil-eating tosspot is offended by it ... bloody people forcing their PC views on impressionable kids - makes me wanna puke :mad:
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What a fabulous post and bang on the money :cool:
 
By this logic, ban the Simpsons too! :eek: One day there could be a race of humans with yellow skin and they may be offended! :rolleyes:
 
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