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More Radeon R9 290X cards with 8GB RAM in november

Nothing like flogging a dead horse. It's a clever move though from AMD, they have brainwashed their customers so well that they know they will believe they need 8GB. You have to take your hat off to them for that.

Bless, and NVidia doing the same.

The difference is even with 8gb of VRAM in multi GPU setups @4K the 256bit bus really throttles the 980s.

Multi 290X GPUs setups on the other hand although slower @1080p do not throttle @4K due to their 512bit bus.

If any one thinks I am being anti NVidia this is not true as I will be buying several of their cards in the hopefully near future and they won't come with a 256bit bus. It is either that or I am going to be stuck with a big green blob I don't know what to do with.

And I am not talking about the wife.

:D:D:D:D
 
The difference is even with 8gb of VRAM in multi GPU setups @4K the 256bit bus really throttles the 980s.

Multi 290X GPUs setups on the other hand although slower @1080p do not throttle @4K due to their 512bit bus.

If any one thinks I am being anti NVidia this is not true as I will be buying several of their cards in the hopefully near future and they won't come with a 256bit bus. It is either that or I am going to be stuck with a big green blob I don't know what to do with.

And I am not talking about the wife.

:D:D:D:D


No offence Kaap, but I have read this kind of tripe for a long time from people.... Oh you need xGB for 1080p, oh you need xGB for 1200p, oh you need xGB for 1440p and now naturally the same old **** spouted for 4k. There's nothing much else to market, so throw in some memory bandwidth issues too and its still the same old nonsense, nothing changes.

What gripes me is that people tell others that what they need. It's horrible advice. I wish people would buy what they 'think' they need and dont ram bad advice down other peoples throats.

I was told I needed more than 3gb on my 780 to play at 1440p 144hz, I even played with a heavily modded skyrim....I knew I didnt, and proved I didnt.

I'm tempted to buy 4k just to prove it to others again but nothing will change, the same old same old will be branded around. Have you noticed by now I probably sigh an awful lot ? ;)
 
Any company that aims for an area where there competitor is weaker to gain extra revenue is a smart move. It is one of the laws of business and if you do the same as your competitor it's a race to the bottom.

I guess it's down to the case of maybe many like OCUK approaching AIB partners and requasting some cards because there is a demand. The demand maybe small but so is the demand for Ferarris. But they stil make them.

The cost of those 8GB cards against a Titan is very keen and for those of us that are running 4k and it's a great idea and fills a gap in the market by slapping extra RAM on a current card.

Many people run dual cards today compared to a couple of years ago. The current choices for 4k are (and these wont nessesarily run 4k at max in every game)

4GB ;
X295 £600 (2x 290x's OC'd & factory included water cooling)
3 x 290's £6-700
2 x 290x £600
3 x 290x £900
2 x 980's £850
3 x 970's £775

> 4GB solutions
2 x Titans £1400+
Titan Z £1100+
2 x R9 290X 8GB £700+
3 x R9 290x 8GB £1050+

The 8GB cards are a very clever move and appealing for those that have taken on 4k. I'm not sure the 4k market is as small as people think. Running 1440p at 120 hz isn't going to be much different than the requirements for 4k at 60hz. Both require immense GPU horsepower. The market for 4k is smaller but so will the amount of 8GB cards produced.


Very clever move from AMD
Doesnt need any new tech but able to compete with 970/980 again.
 
No offence Kaap, but I have read this kind of tripe for a long time from people.... Oh you need xGB for 1080p, oh you need xGB for 1200p, oh you need xGB for 1440p and now naturally the same old **** spouted for 4k. There's nothing much else to market, so throw in some memory bandwidth issues too and its still the same old nonsense, nothing changes.

What gripes me is that people tell others that what they need. It's horrible advice. I wish people would buy what they 'think' they need and dont ram bad advice down other peoples throats.

I was told I needed more than 3gb on my 780 to play at 1440p 144hz, I even played with a heavily modded skyrim....I knew I didnt, and proved I didnt.

I'm tempted to buy 4k just to prove it to others again but nothing will change, the same old same old will be branded around. Have you noticed by now I probably sigh an awful lot ? ;)

The problem being Kaap is using 4 cards and has the power to push settings in certain games beyond 4gb of ram. It's not just Kaap saying this as review sites have also ran into this problem. We are talking Max settings and max aa in most cases. Usually 4gb of ram is enough for max settings and 4xmsaa which for most is enough.
 
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No offence Kaap, but I have read this kind of tripe for a long time from people.... Oh you need xGB for 1080p, oh you need xGB for 1200p, oh you need xGB for 1440p and now naturally the same old **** spouted for 4k. There's nothing much else to market, so throw in some memory bandwidth issues too and its still the same old nonsense, nothing changes.

What gripes me is that people tell others that what they need. It's horrible advice. I wish people would buy what they 'think' they need and dont ram bad advice down other peoples throats.

I was told I needed more than 3gb on my 780 to play at 1440p 144hz, I even played with a heavily modded skyrim....I knew I didnt, and proved I didnt.

I'm tempted to buy 4k just to prove it to others again but nothing will change, the same old same old will be branded around. Have you noticed by now I probably sigh an awful lot ? ;)

Thing is that is the way it is.

When I buy stuff I am not disappointed that much because I am more interested in what it can not do rather than what it can do. Before I bought my 4gb 290Xs I knew they were never going to be that good @4K because of the lack of VRAM so I was not that upset when they did badly on some of the stuff I tried them on. Having said that if 8gb versions had be available at the time I probably still would have bought the 4gb ones as theoretically they are slightly faster for what I wanted.

Another example is the 5960X, when I saw the first serious benches on this CPU I said the physics performance was very poor and this has not changed, since then even 8 Pack has said the hex cores have a better IMC. Having said that it has not stopped me getting that CPU as I have other uses for it.
 
I just noticed this whole time your sig had a typo.

"4GB of DDR5" :D

BTW the ICs on these 8GB boards are likely gonna be 20nm.

:o

Insider secret, i didn't make it. :D However i will try and get that corrected when it gets upgraded. :)
 
I know, it was my way of proving a point that I did need DDR4 :D


Lol missed the point completely.
The DDR4 part was a small entry into why you NEEDED X99the whole x99 setup. I'll be needing 8Gb on a gfx card long before what I need in X99, Maxwell CPU AND DDR4.


Jeeesus:eek:
 
Lol missed the point completely.
The DDR4 part was a small entry into why you NEEDED X99the whole x99 setup. I'll be needing 8Gb on a gfx card long before what I need in X99, Maxwell CPU AND DDR4.


Jeeesus:eek:

I have not tested but I suspect for gaming a 4790k devils canyon setup is still the best gaming platform.
 
Lol missed the point completely.
The DDR4 part was a small entry into why you NEEDED X99the whole x99 setup. I'll be needing 8Gb on a gfx card long before what I need in X99, Maxwell CPU AND DDR4.


Jeeesus:eek:

Never have I said I needed an X99 setup, I wanted it. If you need 8gb on your card then by all means go for it, that's what I said in a previous post, just dont tell people that what they need too because its ********.
 
So with more 8GB r9 290x's on the way and 8GB 980's as well. Does this mean we might see 16GB 990's ?
 
Never have I said I needed an X99 setup, I wanted it. If you need 8gb on your card then by all means go for it, that's what I said in a previous post, just dont tell people that what they need too because its ********.

Please indicate where I told folk they needed 8GB.

I think what you post is ***************
 
16GB 990's would effectively be 8GB.

Yes of course but both sides advertise the total amount of ram not just what is available to each GPU. Thinking about it a 690 will probably only have 8GB on board same as the 690 only had 4GB even though there were 4GB 670/80 available.
Anyway I digress this is about the 8GB r9 290x's which the first lot which sold like hotcakes ( after some good pricing form Gibbo) and were believed to be a short production run, well they obviously got somebodies attention if there is now more coming.
 
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