More retarded BS from my IT teacher... is he correct?

JohnnyG said:
The database taxis use is based on customers state of inebriation not distance.
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:D

Round here it's by the mile, locals get charged less if your a regular and there is a standard minimum fee of £3 no matter where you go.

It's on the meter, if it isn't distance it's time as well. Meaning your also paying when your stuck in traffic for 30 minutes and haven't moved at all.

I have no doubt that some would probably use that sort of pricing, but it would be a seriously low minority of firms.
 
fini said:
Perhaps, but I've never heard of a school teaching SQL.
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To be fair teaching SQL to secondary school pupils (I.E. at their level) would be fairly easy. SELECT FROM WHERE and all that.

It's not quite like the SQL you learn at university!

paradigm said:
And this is the problem with the education system and IT.

They teach people to be useless. \o/
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It really isn't the teachers fault, well some of it is because of the atrocious standards of some teachers. However the overall curriculum is dictated by the Government and they seem to think that pupils need to be taught how to use Microsoft Office and Islam, er Religious Education.

Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic would be a better foundation if you ask me. Also why can't we go back to the two tier system where the less gifted (or thickos as I'd like to call them) go on one track aiming to get a basic education in the three R's (and how to use Word :D ) and those with something between their ears go on to learn an advanced education in the three R's and appropriate elected subjects.

I saw on the news that the Government want to "reward" bad kids for having normal behavior. What the ****? Seriously, when will the madness end?
 
MoNkeE said:
He's probably just saying that so you'll stop asking him WHY and just do the ****ing work!
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People who get their head down and get on with it without saying a word have no backbone, shows they're weak, they have no passion for it. They aren't as successful as those who have the balls question it.
Theres certain things if I hadn't questioned them I wouldn't be in anywhere near as good as a job as I am today.

So keep going at the moron, he's clearly trying to look good in front of a load of people younger than him because he has no mates, probably a middle aged man who goes to lego tournaments or something I would suspect.

The guys full of ****, punch him in the face.
 
asim18 said:
Ok, so my IT teacher seems to think that Taxi companies don't charge by distance travelled, but use a database of millions of routes with predefined fixed prices instead.
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A lot of them have fixed price matrices for certain journeys (eg pickup from postcode xx to airports/train stations), but tend to charge by mileage for most journeys.
 
asim18 said:
Ok, so my IT teacher seems to think that Taxi companies don't charge by distance travelled, but use a database of millions of routes with predefined fixed prices instead.

And he made this quick spreadsheet to explain it to me:
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He told me the list continues for every other possible door-to-door combination.


When I asked him about the "meters" used in cabs, he replied..

"What? NO"

...in an extremely weird way, it was as if he was thinking "oh crap, I've failed, I'd better back up my BS with even more BS, or he'll think I'm an idiot"

...and then he started saying more crap to back up his stupidity.
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Why can't you just do the exercises without questioning him and undermining his authority? He is the teacher, he sets the examples, no matter how stupid. In the end of the day it seems to be a dbase/spreadsheet exercise, so just do it and ignore the story around it if it bothers you so much.

Is the point to teach you about how Taxis work? No. Is the point to teach you how Excel/Spreadsheets work? Yes.

Think about that, don't try to look like a smart **** and undermine him.
 
Wonder if your ICT teacher's qualification was the ECDL?

My wife did this, because her healthboard paid for it, even though she's 'clinical', not 'clerical'.

She would be the first to admit that it helps you find your way around the basic functions of the various applications included in the course, and allthough she passed the ECDL without any problem, it has not given her the practical hands-on 'savvy' that you need in order to solve the 'now how do I fix that' issues that crop up from time to time.

(Mac fan-boys please refrain from jumping in here - we all know the Mac OS is so intuitive that you can do all your computing while asleep ;) )
 
Ex-RoNiN said:
Why can't you just do the exercises without questioning him and undermining his authority? He is the teacher, he sets the examples, no matter how stupid. In the end of the day it seems to be a dbase/spreadsheet exercise, so just do it and ignore the story around it if it bothers you so much.

Is the point to teach you about how Taxis work? No. Is the point to teach you how Excel/Spreadsheets work? Yes.

Think about that, don't try to look like a smart **** and undermine him.
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listen to this fella :cool:
 
asim18 said:
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If the database was correct and the meters was a lie then where would the common belief come from that taxi drivers always take you the long way so they can charge more, as the charge will already be pre-determined?
Im fairly sure that little box with numbers that counts up isnt accessing a database either.
 
Energize Said The database he is describing would be impossible to make with current technology, not only would it be too large, but it would take forever to come up with all the address combinations.
You mean a bit like the impossible sat nav databases that have all the roads on and the sat navs also take forever to bring up all those address combinations.

I don’t see it as being impossible or even that large just a little time consuming to make, but very doable. Just take a sat nav and apply predefined fixed prices based on location, distance and estermated time. Sat navs already know which roads are often busy and the difference between fastest and shortest route.The core database with millions of routs is already with us. Just need a little bit of code to come up with a price based on location, distance and estermated time.
 
Ex-RoNiN said:
Why can't you just do the exercises without questioning him and undermining his authority? He is the teacher, he sets the examples, no matter how stupid. In the end of the day it seems to be a dbase/spreadsheet exercise, so just do it and ignore the story around it if it bothers you so much.

Is the point to teach you about how Taxis work? No. Is the point to teach you how Excel/Spreadsheets work? Yes.

Think about that, don't try to look like a smart **** and undermine him.
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Id question him and undermine his authority if I was given such a bad scenario and he argued that it was how the world works.
Its not very difficult coming up with an idea for a database is it?

Sounds like a poor teacher imo, obviously doesnt put enough thought into lessons. Guess he is an IT teacher though.
 
Ex-RoNiN said:
Why can't you just do the exercises without questioning him and undermining his authority?
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I'd say because he's not-respecting his role as a teacher nor his pupils. By setting such a poor example he is, essentially, wasting everyone's time with something that has no real-life use and that could be easily replaced with something that both taught the underlying principles and was useful. The teacher is out of line here in failing to perform his job in any way that could be defined as satisfactory.
 
Maybe you should call him out on the old taxi database. Because what he is saying is that for every possible journey there is a record in a database. Now ask him to do the maths on the number of fields that database would contain based on an assumption of around about lets say 100,000 locations within a town. Thats 100,000+999,999+999,998....+1 roughly as far as I can tell. So every cabbie secrectly has a supercumputer in his car to find the record he wants.
 
Your teacher sounds like an idiot from what he said about the HDD's being completely silent.
However, he is just trying to educate you as best he can, and he most likely used the taxi scenario as an example so you had something to make up a spreadsheet for (Last year in college we used estate agents instead). He most likely saw the flaw in what he had said, however felt embaressed by being proven wrong by a student, and tried to defend himself.
 
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