Mortgage Rate Rises

ha.. yes same here.

glad we locked in till '25 and now overpay but with mortgage at £2k/mont it is a little scary lol, the goal is to overpay as much as we can(2k is with overpayment) and come renewal we hopefully have OK offers.

Ooft. 2k is a lot (obviously depends on earnings!
Yeah fixed here until 2027 thankfully with one of my few amazing life decisions. Saving literally 1000s a year at current prices.

I want to get it down to 100k really but that's a hell of an ask in 5 years. Because at 100k vs 200k the percentage fluctuations make much less of an impact to day to day life.


Paying 3 percent more than I am now? That's 300 a month. Every month. That's a butt tonne of money.
 
Glad I will be mortgage free within 2 months.
So glad that in 2017 only 18 months after taking my mortgage out I got jittery about work, caused me to work out a way to be mortgage free by end of 22.
I would have been but used some funds for solar instead late in 22. So it caused a 4 month delay in having enough free cashflow without messing with investments reduction etc, to pay the last bit off.

Deffo will be popping a cork end of April.

Oi you, take that huge mic drop out of this thread of pity! :D

6 - 7 years and you're mortgage free??
 
Oi you, take that huge mic drop out of this thread of pity! :D

6 - 7 years and you're mortgage free??

Took out mortgage last day of Oct 2015. So a little longer, it was 2017 that I got nervous and said could I pay it off in 5 years. Answer was not quite but close. (was effectively a 5.5 year plan at that point)
Since than I have been paying around 22.5% of my take home as extra payments. Which meant a little short of 10% of original loan value per year.
So yeah, make 10% of original capital over payments a year for approx 6 years and you would clear it, give or take a little.
Recognise ofc that for many thats not possible, for me it was and so glad I did.

I had planned to reward myself with a new fast car, but with my annual mileage now like 30% of precovid my sensible accountant hat says no.

Pension pumping next probably.
 
Ooft. 2k is a lot (obviously depends on earnings!
Yeah fixed here until 2027 thankfully with one of my few amazing life decisions. Saving literally 1000s a year at current prices.

I want to get it down to 100k really but that's a hell of an ask in 5 years. Because at 100k vs 200k the percentage fluctuations make much less of an impact to day to day life.


Paying 3 percent more than I am now? That's 300 a month. Every month. That's a butt tonne of money.
it is a lot but its a chunky mortgage in an expensive part of uk sadly.. we can afford the £2k a month, currently.. but with everything else going up it's all slowly getting very tight! we'll have to see what we'll do come remortgage, but we won't be making the mistake we made now, we'll max out our term and over-pay just so we have flexibility.
 
Took out mortgage last day of Oct 2015. So a little longer, it was 2017 that I got nervous and said could I pay it off in 5 years. Answer was not quite but close. (was effectively a 5.5 year plan at that point)
Since than I have been paying around 22.5% of my take home as extra payments. Which meant a little short of 10% of original loan value per year.
So yeah, make 10% of original capital over payments a year for approx 6 years and you would clear it, give or take a little.
Recognise ofc that for many thats not possible, for me it was and so glad I did.

I had planned to reward myself with a new fast car, but with my annual mileage now like 30% of precovid my sensible accountant hat says no.

Pension pumping next probably.
Impressive.
If most people can afford to pay over 10pc they just get a house that much more expensive.
Nice to be able to have the restraint you have!

Its certainly ideally timed!
 
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But at least you can drive places. Living in London, it's often not really an option to drive places. Well, you can, but it can be expensive, time-consuming and a pain in the bum.

It's funny, 5 years ago, a small house in the countryside would have been my idea of hell, but now I cycle, I'm thinking it would be great. I'm also wondering how easy (or how hard more like) it might be to move to the Spanish countryside... :cry:

Difficult since brexit, as you used to be able to just go over and crack on... now you can apply for:

  • 'Golden visa' basically invest €500,000 in spanish property and/or business and allows you to work in Spain
  • 'Non-lucrative visa' more aimed at retiress, requires private heath insurance and passive income of over €27,000 per year such as pensions or dividends etc. You are not allowed to work in spain with this visa.
  • 'Digital nomad visa' gives non-EU nationals the chance to live and work in Spain for up to five years who work remotely for non-Spanish companies. Applicants are permitted to get a maximum of 20 per cent of their income from Spanish firms. Its quite complicated, more info here: https://www.euronews.com/travel/202...tal-nomad-visa-could-let-you-stay-for-5-years
 
This intrigued me so I put some numbers in to a spreadsheet, keeps the grey matter ticking....

For a 0% cash transfer of £5k from a credit card with a fee of 3.1% that's £155 in what is technically still interest. The balance of the CC account is then £5,155, over 17 months that's £303.24 per month for 17 months to clear the balance in time. Remember the fee of £155 is not interest fee and if not cleared in full interest will be charged on all of it.

You'll have to keep paying the minimum of that balance which for some credit cards is 3%. The first 3% payment (£154.65) won't cover the fee so additional payment is required as mentioned before. In this example I'll assume additional payments on top of the minimum 3% will be made anyway, like this:

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Assuming a mortgage of £170k over 20 years at 3.5%, so £986.26pm with no additional payments would look like this, our baseline:

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Taking the £5k borrowed earlier and putting in to the mortgage, keeping the monthly payments as before, would look like this:

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Only an interest saving of £84.18 over the first 17 months because the £155 fee eats in to the saving. There is a substantial saving of £4,747.99 over the full term of the mortgage, plus it would be paid off 10 months early. This assumes that the interest rate stayed the same, never remortgage or altered in any way.

What if instead of taking the credit card cash transfer we increased the mortgage monthly payments to what would have been paid to the cc balance for the same 17 months?

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Over the 17 month period there is a saving of £122.40 compared to the baseline which is better than the credit card cash transfer method as there is no fee to pay. A nice saving of £4,819.15 over the full mortgage term and it's 10 months shorter compared to the baseline too.

In summary, making regular mortgage overpayments each month is better than a fee inducing cash transfer from a credit card. It's less risky, you can decide not to overpay should you need to one month or more and you don't have to calculate additional payments should you use the credit card for purchases too.

There are a few ways I could see a cash transfer from a CC being better. Instead of making regular CC payments above the 3% minimum required you put those in to a savings account and pull it at the 17 month mark to clear the balance of the CC. I haven't calculated what interest you'd obtain from such an approach but I reckon the savings account interest would need to be at least 3% or higher to see any benefit, plus it's added hassle and complexity. Another factor for consideration is if you are about to end a low fixed rate and enter a higher rate mortgage then paying something in the present will save in the future, increasing the savings made.

I've tried my best with my numbers and calculations but if you see any errors or omissions please let me know :).
Hello mate,

Apologies for my slow reply only just seen this!

Your calculations are pretty much spot on! When I made the overpayment it said I’d save around £4700 (can’t remember exact amount without going back in to it) and my mortgage would be repaid 10 months earlier!

I’ve paid the 2.9% fee off already on the card and will clear the £5k off with some money in my premium bonds when the interest free period is nearly coming to an end but will leave as much as I can in there for now to give me more chances of winning! If I can clear £5k again next year it’ll all help :-)
 
Hello mate,

Apologies for my slow reply only just seen this!

Your calculations are pretty much spot on! When I made the overpayment it said I’d save around £4700 (can’t remember exact amount without going back in to it) and my mortgage would be repaid 10 months earlier!

I’ve paid the 2.9% fee off already on the card and will clear the £5k off with some money in my premium bonds when the interest free period is nearly coming to an end but will leave as much as I can in there for now to give me more chances of winning! If I can clear £5k again next year it’ll all help :)

Cheers, happy to help. It wasn't going to be exact to your numbers as I didn't know your precise circumstances so I used the fee that my credit card charges, a typical borrowing amount and an average mortgage rate.

Glad you have a plan! You just need to stick to it and clear the cash balance before the period runs out or even the first month's interest charged will wipe out any savings in interest made over the 17 months. This may sound obvious and unlikely in your situation but keep paying the mandatory 3% minimum each month because if you slip up for any reason (DD bounces, a hack on your bank account etc) and you don't pay the monthly amount the CC company will cancel the 0% interest period and start charging you. Also, as I've mentioned before if you're using the CC for purchases as well be extra vigilant that the 3% minimum payment covers those purchase in their entirety (for that charge period) because if it doesn't, interest on those purchases will be charged.
 
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Reporting on the news we could be on the verge of a second banking collapse?

Interest rate crash in 3...2...1

What does this mean for UK mortgage rates exactly ?

I'v got a re mortgage offer letter from Barclays . Are rates going to rise ? Fall ?
 
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What does this mean for UK mortgage rates exactly ?

I'v got a re mortgage offer letter from Barclays . Are rates going to rise ? Fall ?

Nobody knows


The appetite to keep raising rates will now be tested if central banks become concerned that SVB’s problems are indicative of a broader weakness in corporate balance sheets caused by rising rates.

I'm no expert, but rising interest rates lower the value of bonds which is putting some banks under real pressure.
 
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Reporting on the news we could be on the verge of a second banking collapse?

Interest rate crash in 3...2...1


Credit Suisse has been flirting with disaster for years though.

In theory it should have no impact on the UK banking sector as protections were put in place after the 2008 crash to prevent it happening again.

It could mean a drop / no more rises in interest rates in the short term though, which means inflation will remain high
 
Credit Suisse has been flirting with disaster for years though.

In theory it should have no impact on the UK banking sector as protections were put in place after the 2008 crash to prevent it happening again.

It could mean a drop / no more rises in interest rates in the short term though, which means inflation will remain high

Yeah.....and I did say a while back that when I fixed my mortgage (two weeks ago now?) the rates would drop......so you know damn well they will do lol

Basically do the exact opposite of what I do
 
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