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MOT fail thread

@JonRGV250 But how can a tester determine if an LED bulb is ECE approved or not? For example in my Mondeo to replace the headlight bulb is a bumper out job. Similarly, to check the LED bulb it will be a bumper out job unless one can tell by looking at the lens. Nobody has time for that.
 
LowEndTorque said:
@JonRGV250 But how can a tester determine if an LED bulb is ECE approved or not? For example in my Mondeo to replace the headlight bulb is a bumper out job. Similarly, to check the LED bulb it will be a bumper out job unless one can tell by looking at the lens. Nobody has time for that.
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We can only tell if they're LED bulbs if fitted to a reflector headlamp (we can see the bulb), there's no way of checking with a projector lamp.
There was no way of checking if bulbs were ECE approved, so now the stickers will clear that up (if people use them).
 
JonRGV250 said:
We can only tell if they're LED bulbs if fitted to a reflector headlamp (we can see the bulb), there's no way of checking with a projector lamp.
There was no way of checking if bulbs were ECE approved, so now the stickers will clear that up (if people use them).
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Mine has a projector housing for halogen so it will be difficult if I install LEDs. I don't want to because of technical limitations (heat dissipation).
 
JonRGV250 said:
We can only tell if they're LED bulbs if fitted to a reflector headlamp (we can see the bulb), there's no way of checking with a projector lamp.
There was no way of checking if bulbs were ECE approved, so now the stickers will clear that up (if people use them).
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I give it a month before the "stickers" are on Aliexpress.
 
LowEndTorque said:
Technically inept here.. What is wrong with the shock? Is it its mounting?
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The clamp holding it is only clamped on one half, so the shock has only got half the purchase it should have.

This also means that the bottom half of the clamp is probably bent and that bolt will be screwed tighter than Sandra Bullock's coin purse.

Edit - looking again, the clamp should be flush against the stop on the shock and it isn't, meaning that that one single bolt is what's holding the car up on that corner. It's only a matter of time before that pops down in to the correct position, which if at motorway speeds will be quite an erm... Shock.
 
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@JonRGV250

Quick question if you don't mind.

Currently arguing with the owner of 'Reversee' because they not warning people that their product isn't suitable for cars that are already fitted with 2 reverse lights from factory.


I've laid out the regs from The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, Schedule 14, which states that no more than 2 lights can be fitted to a vehicle of less than 6m in length and told him that due to this, any car fitted with their product when it already has 2 reverse lights would be an MOT failure.

He's trying to claim that the MOT manual and regs are different and wouldn't fail.

I'm pretty confident that I'm right since surely the manual is just a simplification of the regs?
 
@Resident Back in May I asked this:-

pastymuncher said:
@JonRGV250 A question for you. I was coming home today behind a Ford Ecosport and noticed they had a pair of small led spotlights fitted under the rear bumper. I presume they were wired into the reversing light but is this even legal and able to pass a mot? If so that could be just what I need for my Leaf because the reversing lights are next to useless, especially in the rain. Down our end of the cul-de-sac it is pitch black and I can't see a thing when reversing into my parking slot so this would be a massive help if it is legal.
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JonRGV250 said:
Perfectly fine, as long as no white light is showing to rear (apart from reversing).



ie if a rear lens is broken and the side lights/brake lights show white light when driving, then it'll fail.
You can have as many reverse lights as you want, just as long as..

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So with that in mind the Reversee should be legal. It would give me another option as well although in the video's I have managed to find it only lights up the ground very close to the rear of the car which isn't that good.
 
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Resident said:
@JonRGV250

Quick question if you don't mind.

Currently arguing with the owner of 'Reversee' because they not warning people that their product isn't suitable for cars that are already fitted with 2 reverse lights from factory.


I've laid out the regs from The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, Schedule 14, which states that no more than 2 lights can be fitted to a vehicle of less than 6m in length and told him that due to this, any car fitted with their product when it already has 2 reverse lights would be an MOT failure.

He's trying to claim that the MOT manual and regs are different and wouldn't fail.

I'm pretty confident that I'm right since surely the manual is just a simplification of the regs?
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Personally I test to what the MOT manual says (so if there is a dispute, it's in black and white and available to all), and no where does it say that more than 2 is a failure.
The pic that Pastymuncher & myself posted is all that testers can fail/advise reverse lights on
TBH the MOT manual is an absolute mess, and has always been.
The testers know it, the DVSA know it, but sod all gets done about it.
 
It should be added that MOT rules and regulations are often very different things.

Additional lighting is not part of the MOT at all in most cases. And it's not something doing any harm regardless.
 
JonRGV250 said:
and another Nissan Navara with a cracked chassis that's about to snap in half..

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What age of truck are we speaking about? Looks relatively corrosion free, so I'm assuming fairly new - but that lump of moss(?) and twigs and crap in the corner probably suggests it's been offroaded within an inch of it's life.
 
@JonRGV250 I have seen this Dodge RAM locally that is jacked up quite a lot and its wheels were protruding outside the arches by at least a third of their width. Is that an MOT failure and generally not going to be under a copper's attention because it is an import?
 
That one is just an advisory.

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Different story for the Police though.
 
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