Man of Honour
I've had a few incidents, but like you not enough to make me vitriolic.
Motorbike filtering...
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I've had a few incidents, but like you not enough to make me vitriolic.
So you weren't even moving!
What threat did he possibly pose to you to warrant you damaging his property?
What if he was lining himself up to avoid a pothole or a brick or something else in the gutter?
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Soldato
As far as I can recall, "cager" is a bit of an "Americanism" as far as a term for car drivers goes. It's used a lot on the AF1 Aprilia forums I frequent which are predominantly used by American riders.
It's not a derogatory term, never has been.
It's not a derogatory term, never has been.
lol serious?
Chav, nuff said.
Yes, serious.
So what if the chav had positioned himself in a way that blocked the OPs filtering? It's his lane and his right of way to do that.
It's not as if it was at 70 down a dual carriageway is it? They were both stationary!
[TW]Fox;14861815 said:
on the other hand some of us call bikers 'donors'
On this subject I dsometimes get a little annoyed when a biker filters past me on the left and then pulls in right in front of me - sometimes slowing me down, but on the whole I treat them as very vulnerable little packages and give them as much space as possible.
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So it was only once the Chav became stationary he noticed a massive pot hole in on the M4 right in front of him? I think the only "Pot" in this topic was the one he was smoking, and the "hole" was in space under his burberry baseball cap.
Man of Honour
what I notice more and more is when I filter through v slow moving traffic, after I decide to stop filtering the car behind will barge up the inside of me to regain he lost place.
happened last night and last week... I usually move to a position where I can stay safe, but I've had one guy mount the pavement to get his place back.
even had a mini undertake me on a single carrage way at about 60mph to regain a overtake I made on him, I had to swerve to oncoming traffic to avoide being rear ended.
op was a fool in this case... no need to dmg the car, but if I was in his position I would have probably got off bike and had a quiet word (in full CE body armour of course
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edit: I had some business man ranting at me once, I eventually after many words exchanged signalled him to pull over gesturing for a fight with fist, he skids into layby, jumps out of car, and I just continue riding and wave as I go past, the art of fighting without fighting (c) bruce lee
happened last night and last week... I usually move to a position where I can stay safe, but I've had one guy mount the pavement to get his place back.
even had a mini undertake me on a single carrage way at about 60mph to regain a overtake I made on him, I had to swerve to oncoming traffic to avoide being rear ended.
op was a fool in this case... no need to dmg the car, but if I was in his position I would have probably got off bike and had a quiet word (in full CE body armour of course
)edit: I had some business man ranting at me once, I eventually after many words exchanged signalled him to pull over gesturing for a fight with fist, he skids into layby, jumps out of car, and I just continue riding and wave as I go past
, the art of fighting without fighting (c) bruce leeAs irritated as you may have been, this was not the way to deal with it. All you've done is lower our reputation even more :/ If someone wants to move in my way to stop me filtering, I hold back, then when it is clear in the other lane I ride past. If I know he has deliberately done it, I give him a wave as I ride past, content in the knowledge he'll be sat there for a while longer. I don't cause criminal damage. 
Don
cager rager tbh
Caporegime
*snigger*
Must try and summon sympathy for idiot in Corsa.... failure to condemn rash, hot headed, and needless (but funny) criminal damage iminent....
Must try and summon sympathy for idiot in Corsa.... failure to condemn rash, hot headed, and needless (but funny) criminal damage iminent....
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I do ride bikes, and rightly or wrongly I do get annoyed when car drivers don't show consideration for 'us'.
What annoys me is they way you're trying to stack it in your favour after you saw that the majority didn't agree with you. You were stationary, and he annoyed you, you lost your temper and did something childish. Trying to justify it by saying he was a chav in a corsa doesn't make you any more right.
People antagonise other road users regardless of whether they're on a bike or in a car. You just have to deal with without coming out looking like an idiot.
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Wrong!
"It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully."
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Oh if only peep continued to do this, not just when they do their driving test.
They should issue frag grenades to bikers, just drop one thro drivers windows who don't do the above mentioned.
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You're wrong I'm afraid. That is just guidance on safe driving (ie watch out for other road users). It says nothing about whose responsibility it is to ensure they are filtering safely. This, on the other hand, does (and it's a pro-biker article)
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/community/Forums/Categories/Topic/?topic-id=357452
Responsibility for filtering, as with any overtaking move that does not involve access to an exclusive overtaking lane (eg a dual carriageway), always lies with the individual undertaking the move, not with the one being passed. This is clearly established by several decades of precedent.
Yes, I should be aware you might be there, but if I'm not, and you hit me, it is not my fault unless there were very exceptional circumstances.
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Yes, but just look before you turn the wheel and hit the gas. Thats all, take about .8 of a second.
I always do, and quite frequently see some **** on a bike in a stupid place as I do so...
The number of bikers who sit in the likely or obvious blind spots of cars is crazy...
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That winds me up no end. The number of times I have passed cars on the motorway with some biker lurking behind me on the nearside in my blind spot waiting to undertake me.