Motorsport Off Topic Thread

Night and day to whatever intern they have running the F1 regs.

Saw that, and thought how forward thinking.

Real new engineering not going backwards, making relevant advances and engineering achievements - meanwhile F1 are going backwards to V8's you couldn't make it up. F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport. Imagine the number of jobs being created in wider industries that are needed, and the benefits elsewhere, but the money is a tiny fraction of what goes to F1.
 
Saw that, and thought how forward thinking.

Real new engineering not going backwards, making relevant advances and engineering achievements - meanwhile F1 are going backwards to V8's you couldn't make it up. F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport. Imagine the number of jobs being created in wider industries that are needed, and the benefits elsewhere, but the money is a tiny fraction of what goes to F1.
Would you rather F1 became this then?
 
Would you rather F1 became this then?
F1 just has an identity crisis and they're letting politics build terrible regs.

Formula E very much targets EVs and there's real consumer translation in what they're doing. WEC Hypercars allow a variety of engine configurations, which lets teams focus on designs that they think are relevant to their market and it still manages to create a pretty close field - also worth noting that they had the foresight to not offer a 50:50 split because they have intelligent people working there.

F1 regs: ~50:50 split but your main way of recharging energy is a petrol generator. Oh and energy management is so complicated and limited that every lap is a lottery.
 
F1 just has an identity crisis and they're letting politics build terrible regs.

Formula E very much targets EVs and there's real consumer translation in what they're doing. WEC Hypercars allow a variety of engine configurations, which lets teams focus on designs that they think are relevant to their market and it still manages to create a pretty close field - also worth noting that they had the foresight to not offer a 50:50 split because they have intelligent people working there.

F1 regs: ~50:50 split but your main way of recharging energy is a petrol generator. Oh and energy management is so complicated and limited that every lap is a lottery.
That wasn't my point, it seems that the majority of fans wish to go back to basic v8/v10's and less depenance upon any forms of electric propulsion. Yet the argument that was being presented was that formula e seemed to be the way toward.
I don't watch formula e either, despite owning a ev myself, as I've always believed there is more to racing than just technology. I'm happy enough just watching lawnmowers race to be honest. That isn't to say there isn't a place for any technology but, unless someone comes up with a completely new form of power unit there isn't really many changes we can make with ice powered vehicles other than bolting on some electric add on.
I think we're at the limits of what ice alone can do.
 
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That wasn't my point, it seems that the majority of fans wish to go back to basic v8/v10's and less depenance upon any forms of electric propulsion. Yet the argument that was being presented was that formula e seemed to be the way toward.
I don't watch formula e either, despite owning a ev myself, as I've always believed there is more to racing than just technology. I'm happy enough just watching lawnmowers race to be honest. That isn't to say there isn't a place for any technology but, unless someone comes up with a completely new form of power unit there isn't really many changes we can make with a ice powered vehicles other than bolting on some electric add on.
I think we're at the limits of what ice alone can do.
I think he meant "way forward" for FE specifically i.e. in the EV and EV racing space, FE have a clear path forward that aligns well with vehicle electrification. I don't really watch FE either but would be interested to see them get to a point where they were racing on real circuits.

F1 on the other hand just looks like a mess. Sounds awful, and nothing about the PU screams performance. I'd imagine that the commercial translation from F1 is in the performance/hypercar sector so a mild hybrid V8/V10 seems to make more sense and would be a better fan experience.
 
I think he meant "way forward" for FE specifically i.e. in the EV and EV racing space, FE have a clear path forward that aligns well with vehicle electrification. I don't really watch FE either but would be interested to see them get to a point where they were racing on real circuits.

F1 on the other hand just looks like a mess. Sounds awful, and nothing about the PU screams performance. I'd imagine that the commercial translation from F1 is in the performance/hypercar sector so a mild hybrid V8/V10 seems to make more sense and would be a better fan experience.
But then that isn't what I would call being at the pinnacle of motor racing at all and no better, in terms of technology, than any other hybrid road car.
The problem is that the ice has been more or less developed as far as it can go and has hit a wall.
Perhaps F1 should purely have v8 or v10 engines, then call it nostalgia motor racing. Oh but we have that already with the historic motosport races.
Perhaps we need to completely move on from ice, maybe there's always nuclear fission engines? :D
 
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