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Ha, pathetic.
A key note that people seem to be keen to gloss over in these recent articles is that Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault and Honda are all now pushing to keep the current turbo V6 regulations beyond 2017 and on into 2019+ as originally planned. Nobody who actually makes F1 engines is interested in any of these "1000BHP" plans.
A key note that people seem to be keen to gloss over in these recent articles is that Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault and Honda are all now pushing to keep the current turbo V6 regulations beyond 2017 and on into 2019+ as originally planned. Nobody who actually makes F1 engines is interested in any of these "1000BHP" plans.
He's basically implying Ferrari are useless and that Mercedes helped them? LOL.
What if they genuinely messed up last season and corrected it for this season? While on the way bringing in key people from rival teams.
Seriously the sooner Renault get their act together the better, otherwise we'll continue to hear a lot of rubbish from teams with Renault engines.
What if they genuinely messed up last season and corrected it for this season? While on the way bringing in key people from rival teams.
Seriously the sooner Renault get their act together the better, otherwise we'll continue to hear a lot of rubbish from teams with Renault engines.
We-e-e-ell....I could heap a few more tonnes of scorn on this latest 'crapola' from Helmut. But the source is Sport Bild. And Sport Bild is pretty much on a par with the National Enquirer, but with rather less journalistic integrity. They make the Daily Fail look well written.
They could easily have 1,000HP with the current engines though? All it would take is a tweak of the regulations? Increase the maximum fuel flow and up the Rev limit a bit. There's no need for new engines at all.
For what purpose though? The V6s are already faster and more fuel efficient than the V8s. Deliberately making them more powerful when the FIA are always striving to restrain the speed and also deliberately making them less efficient for no real reason sends rather bizzare messages doesnt it?
The 1000bhp figure made (a bit of) sense when it was part of a package of suggestions based on a return to NA V8s and a standardised and simplified KERS. Now that everyone except for a few idiots have realised its a stupid idea the cave men are desperately clinging on to the 1000bhp number in a worthless attempt at getting 'something' changed in order to avoid looking like retarded dinosaurs.
F1 needs to cull the negativity towards the new engines and get on with embracing and promoting them. Nobody with a modicum of intelligence thinks F1 needs another engine change.
I'm glad Ferrari and Merc are backing the new 1000bhp rule.
"Toto Wolff, had confirmed that talks were going ahead and that the teams were willing to make changes"
"McLaren boss Ron Dennis believes that if Formula 1 is to change then it should be “dramatically, with a potential return to powerful 1,000bhp engines ”
F1 engine makers have spent so much on these new engines that they have to stay with them.
But if you want a car with that tech it will cost you £1 mil upwards. So not for everyone.
As Toto said ""If you're being a hardliner and you're blocking everything, you're going to be run over" I agree
"Toto Wolff, had confirmed that talks were going ahead and that the teams were willing to make changes"
"McLaren boss Ron Dennis believes that if Formula 1 is to change then it should be “dramatically, with a potential return to powerful 1,000bhp engines ”
F1 engine makers have spent so much on these new engines that they have to stay with them.
But if you want a car with that tech it will cost you £1 mil upwards. So not for everyone.
As Toto said ""If you're being a hardliner and you're blocking everything, you're going to be run over" I agree
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VW chairman quits. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32468360
Does this increase the chance of VW entering F1 as either VW F1, Audi F1, VW Audi F1 or Audi VW F1?
Or, if you use all of VW group's car companies, Audi Lamborghini Bentley Bugatti Porsche SEAT Skoda Volkswagen F1?
Does this increase the chance of VW entering F1 as either VW F1, Audi F1, VW Audi F1 or Audi VW F1?
Or, if you use all of VW group's car companies, Audi Lamborghini Bentley Bugatti Porsche SEAT Skoda Volkswagen F1?
Doubt it. Piech is the petrolhead that lead the Porsche 917 projects among many others. Winterkorn appears to be a glorified accountant. Maybe he's had enough and was time to retire, must be in his late 70s by now...
I'd have bet Piech could win any argument he likes with those three numbers.
I'd have bet Piech could win any argument he likes with those three numbers.
Mclaren Honda power unit analysis - http://richlandf1.com/?p=36492
Lol, nice cherry picking from a selection of articles from up to 3 months ago.
How about posting the full articles and not out of context snippets with no reference designed to construct your own fictitious story.
You have conveniently forgot to mention the bits where Ron's quote is 3 months old from before the season even began, and completely ignored the context of how Bernie says he will have to "tell" the teams what to do because they won't agree with what he wants.
Oh and youve also glosses over how none if the people who actually make the engines want to move away from the current engines, and Bernie's bizzare idea that he can force the teams to turn the engines up and make them less reliable, and then force the manufacturers to sell them at a loss because he thinks they are too expensive. If the cost of the V6s is the problem, how exactly will a change based around those V6s magically solve the cost problem
? If your spending to much money on fuel driving to work, would you try and solve it by driving faster?F1 needs to ditch its senile spare baggage, not its engines. If you can't make an argument for an idea that doesn't sound like it was thought up by a 5 year old, maybe you should move on.
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F1 needs to stop letting the rich teams make the rules and bring in a fixed split between all the teams, Ferrari included. The bigger teams will naturally bring in more sponsorship but it needs to give the small teams a chance to shine. At the moment the big teams suck most of the prize money out of the sport along with CVC. Small teams like Manor get a relative pittance when they should be encouraged.
No they need to ditch the engines.
I still fail to see anything positive from their introduction. They should leave hybrid technology to WEC, who have done an infinitely superior job of it, and go back to simpler, cheaper, louder V8s.
Yeah I can see why simpler, cheaper, louder V8s would be the right choice for the pinnacle of motorsport.
There isn't a chance of them going back to it however if they did, I would ditch F1 after 20 years for WEC.