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Yeah when you read between the lines and remove all the sensationalist stuff, it also just boils down to RBR running unbranded 2015 Renault engines next year, but being able to fiddle with them a bit.
Sounds less impressive when you put it like that. And less like a long term solution either.
Sounds less impressive when you put it like that. And less like a long term solution either.
Skeeter have you been to all parts of the factory or did you just get the race bay tour? I know that the tour is very select about what you see and where your taken.
The new building on site adds at least a 3rd again the foot print and they also have other buildings on the industrial estate.
The new building on site adds at least a 3rd again the foot print and they also have other buildings on the industrial estate.
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Hamilton with foot in mouth disease again, effectively insulting Schumacher.
autoweek.com/article/formula-one/michael-schumacher-fan-club-boss-lashes-out-f1-champ-lewis-hamilton
autoweek.com/article/formula-one/michael-schumacher-fan-club-boss-lashes-out-f1-champ-lewis-hamilton
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Hardly. Just because someone is in a coma doesn't mean you can't go discussing and criticising their successes. What a silly article. Overly sensitive fanboys being overly sensitive.
It wasnt an official tour so we were in the machine shops and autoclave areas. We walked through the building site that was what has become that new building. The race bays are across the road from the main building. They desperately needed the space as they were jammed in when I was there a year or so ago. Actually would have been 2 years ago as we saw a mould for the RB10 chassis before a door was swiftly shut and we were told to pretend we didn't see that
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34722698
Since when did F1 engines look like Transformer heads?
Since when did F1 engines look like Transformer heads?
It wasnt an official tour so we were in the machine shops and autoclave areas. We walked through the building site that was what has become that new building. The race bays are across the road from the main building. They desperately needed the space as they were jammed in when I was there a year or so ago. Actually would have been 2 years ago as we saw a mould for the RB10 chassis before a door was swiftly shut and we were told to pretend we didn't see that
Its been too long
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Of Schumachers titles which were controversial, only 1994 was up there. His cheating in 1997 failed and in 2006 at Monaco it horribly backfired.
For me only 1994 was controversial in a lasting sense, but not for the "traction control they were running" (I'm still very dubious, as if he had traction control he'd have won in Suzuka by minutes (yes, plural)) but for the move at the finale in Adelaide, which while deliberate, Hill was stupid enough to dive up the inside, a move which might well have got Hill a penalty if it was 10 years ago rather than 20.
I'm sorry, but as I said earlier, Hamilton has beaten Rosberg in a dominant car and Massa in similar level equipment. It's hardly Hakkinen and a top-of-his-game Raikkonen is it? Completely ignoring the fact that Hamilton's still got less than half of Schumacher's titles. You've got a long way to go before you start comparing yourself Lewis, in the stats, in the dry and most certainly in the wet.
He's good, but I don't even think he's quite the best of his generation, let alone any other. I'd have liked to have seen him in the late-70s to early 80s, if Villeneuve had lived and actually fulfilled his substantial potential (though I have many qualms over any claims to his eventual limited greatness too) it would have been interesting... he would have slotted into that era well, but, like Villeneuve, I'm not sure he'd have lived long enough to truly judge him, and perhaps therein lies the problem I have with him. Good driver, great driver on his day, but mixed in with a multitude of good drivers (not great ones), I think he'd have had a hard time. Mix him in with the best (for me Ascari, Fangio, Clark, Senna and Alonso) and I don't think he'd make it into the top 3 in even his best season. Of course that's all fantasy, but that's what opinions are.
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out of the list, the only one he could actually race, he has beat... in the same car...in his first season in f1...
I read they've given the engines "faces" and they have their own twitter accounts.
Seriously?!
Just how utterly out of touch are Honda? Stop trying to play with social media and concentrate on fixing your joke of an engine you muppets.
They have done that since the start of the season. The accounts are incredibly cringeworthy.
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Yes, I realise that, but as I've said numerous times now, I don't think Hamilton is quite as good as he the raw Hamilton in 2007, or 2008 for that matter.
Conversely I think Alonso went up a notch once he left McLaren. Some of his driving in 2008 I think I'd only seen from him on a couple of occasions before (Nurburgring 2007 and Suzuka 2005), but in 2008 he started matching his speed with the eye-watering consistency that he has become renowned for. The only strange thing is I think Alonso won his titles before he was at his best, whereas Hamilton has won his, in my opinion, as he lost some of his bull-by-the-horns nature.
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Schumacher was better at F1 than Hamilton is though, so I don't really understand what Lewis means.
He was certainly better at running cars with illegal systems, having clear #1 contracts and deliberately crashing rivals out of races.
You don't have to forget that the guy was a complete d on the track just because of recent tragedies.
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Right, let's get this one sorted. Illegal systems in cars.
1994 - I'll be generous and give you that one (Flav was in charge, after all). It was never proven that they ran those traction control and launch control systems, and there were races where they clearly never had those (Suzuka springs to mind). But the suspicion is certainly still there.
1995 - Nothing contentious as far as electronics go, unless you can point to something?
1996 - Ferrari F310. Look at the Spanish GP that year and tell me with a straight face that the damned thing had traction control.
1997 - Similar to above, but Monaco this time. That car came so close to wiping out every time he nailed the throttle on the exit of Anthony Noges.
1998 - Much like '95, if you can point to anything specific I'll listen.
1999 - Abbreviated season.
2000 - See 1995.
2001 - Traction control was re-allowed anyway.
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Well, that lasted a long time....'US GP under threat'