Motorway cops - cops out of order?

dmpoole said:
Apologies but it is very rare I look up somebody's age on here but this paragraph sums up how SOME young people think.
I find it astonishing that Booner could ever think its OK to swear in front of the Police.
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Excuse me, did say it was OK to swear at a police officer? No, I didn't - so please don't brand me as some young person yob that goes around swearing... I don't want to be tarred with that brush. I was raised very well by my family with morals and how to treat other people.

Infact, I never swear in front of my family (except brother) and don't swear at work either. I would never dream of reacting the way he did with a police officer, as I said in my other posts - they are merely doing their job. In fact I would probably be rather sheepish to be quite honest, unlike some people that might then come back onto a forum and big themselves up to make themselves feel better.

So please don't think that my representation on an internet forum is anywhere near what I am like in real life. :)
 
housemaster said:
Oi, don't speak down to your elders!

;)
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:p

What I didn't like, was the way that the police treated him based on his age. Once you hit 18, you are treated as an adult with punishments and responsabilities, so age shouldn't be used as a method of discrimination.

Comments such as "go home you silly little boy" and generally I felt that he was being treated like a child, when really he has come of age and should be treated like anyone else.

Do you hear police saying "how did you afford that car old man?" "oh go home grampa, your kettle is boiling and your slippers are getting cold".

I can see that the cop lost his cool slightly and resorted to this and the little yob deserved it, but I generally condone anyone talking down to younger people this way who are more than capable of acting like an adult. I guess that this was not the case with this lad and he was treated in this manner as a result.

melbourne720 said:
Link please :)
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here you go, or just read back a page

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10907024&postcount=161
 
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Booner! said:
Excuse me, did say it was OK to swear at a police officer?
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Booner! said:
The officer did threaten to arrest him.
The lad said "for what?"
Officer basically for saying swear words.
The lad said "that's how I talk, what of it"
Can you be arrested for swearing in a sentence? At the end of the day its down to how you use the swearword and if the person is offended by it. I don;t care if people swear at me as it's only an arrangement of letters! But if they used my mother in the remark, I would probably kick off!
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Well reading that you must agree that it did come over that you didn't find a problem with it.
 
Section 5 public order act says its an offence to swear

and yes you can be arrested and get a free nights in her majestys custody. You'll only get fined, but its still an arrestable offence, and they'll keep you in the cells overnight to teach you a lesson.
 
MrLOL said:
Section 5 public order act says its an offence to swear

and yes you can be arrested and get a free nights in her majestys custody. You'll only get fined, but its still an arrestable offence, and they'll keep you in the cells overnight to teach you a lesson.
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However, anyone who is sad enough like me to watch the Crime programmes will see that coppers give out about 20 warnings now before they do anything.
 
i think there is something that says they have to give warning before they hand them out

hence the bloke in the car warned him and didnt actually arrest him for it.
 
He wasn't swearing directly at the officer IIRC, therefore he was using it mid sentence in conversation. To be quite honest I just accept the fact that not everyone has the same level of communication skills and would find such language acceptable to use in the given situation.

I was saying that generally I don't mind people swearing at people, but I didn't say that swearing at a police officer as acceptable.

Anyway I am bored of debating the swearing now :D

But if it's against the law.... do they keep a record of unacceptable words? surely over time words like "bugger" aren't really swear words..
 
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Booner! said:
But if it's against the law.... do they keep a record of unacceptable words? surely over time words like "bugger" aren't really swear words..
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its at the officers disgression

if it is deemed by the officer it would be unacceptable to a judge, then they can issue it

and Section 5 of the public order act defines the offense as swearing in public. It doesnt matter who its aimed at or if its used in a sentance etc.. its still an offense. This is to stop people trying to be sly and swear in a sentance calling the police a **** but then saying it wasnt aimed at him, he was talking to his mate etc..
 
CaSh_MoNeY said:
Brave of him to post.

2 sides to every story, should silence some people on here :rolleyes:
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He was a mouthy little sod and he deserved what he got.
His story changes absolutely nothing.
All he had to do was be nice and respond.
Its unbelievable how you still can't see it.
I don't do rolleyes - very childish.
 
OllyM said:
He was being really cocky, so I don't think there was anything wrong with what the Police did there.

I'd never behave like that if stopped by the Police. In my (very limited) experience, if you treat them with respect, they'll return the favour :)
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indeed

he was resisting arrest on a motorway, the cop had to think about the fact that a few meters away would be lorrys and cars doing 50+mph. a struggle in next to this is not what he needs, so he had to be firm.

the "little boy" wanted respect from the cops, but if he treats em like pieces of **** what does he expect really? however the driver of the cop car did loose his temper near the end and shouldnt have been calling him little boy etc.

fine wise... the number plate was illegal and he was stopped before. he was given 14 days to sort it out. that doesnt give him the right to drive around for 13 days with a illegal number plate. so he deserved to be fined again. This is the same reason the petrol station would have had issues with him, because there ANPR system would have flagged the car up on there screens. really they shouldnt have switched the pumps on at all.
 
Booner! said:
I agree with the above, but deserved the fine for:

Being cocky
Being aggressive to the police when asked simply to go into the police car
Withholding the fact that he was already stopped
Handling the situation completely wrong

If he had just explained rationally he would have got away with it. I would never dream of acting that way... but would argue the toss
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Motorway cops don't deserve respect if they waste the time of someone coz they suspect it's a stolen car, dodgy plates fair enough, but coz it's a nice car and has 2 young people in ?
You have the right to refuse to get into a cop car, I'd tell them to just give me the fine and FO tbh, got better stuff to do than waste my time in a cops car.

if you treat them with respect, they'll return the favour
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Most of them have done nothing to deserve respect, they milk out motorists for rubbish traffic laws like way too low max speeds on empty motorways, overtaking on the wrong side (if some grandpa forgets to get back on the slow lane most people just overtake him no matter how) , and going onto the emergency lane for 10 yards to get onto a sliproad in a jam, for driving an old car is just a reason for them to stop you and waste your time testing if you're drunk and if you still have MOT.
But they ignore the fools who can't keep to the right ( or left, in the UK's case) or ppl who blind you with fog lights, ppl who don't indicate, people that cut you, etc.

They're just filling the gov's guinea pig and thinking it's called safety :rolleyes:.


Dislike motorway cops who waste your time.
 
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