Motorway merge fail??

In terms of the Highway Code, Must indicates you are breaking a specific law under the Road Traffic Act or similar such as speeding, should is things that if you don't follow would open yourself up to a charge of driving without due care and attention as there isn't an specific offense to cover it.
 
Jokester said:
In terms of the Highway Code, Must indicates you are breaking a specific law under the Road Traffic Act or similar such as speeding, should is things that if you don't follow would open yourself up to a charge of driving without due care and attention as there isn't an specific offense to cover it.
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Indeed, which is what applies here. (undue care etc)
 
MagicBoy said:
Correct. Which country did you pass your driving test in? :confused:
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Are you just mental or still on the crack? Where did I say that it's not the correct course of action? :confused:

All I'm saying is if you stop on a slip-road and have to wait a while for a big enough gap you're not part of the motorway, thus reducing motorway congestion as a bonus. How hard is that to understand?
 
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Lorry driver was a bit of a git but the car driver is clearly stupid to do that... Behind or in front, it's not rocket science.
 
[TW]Fox;26361563 said:
It scares me that so many people cant read and think people believe it was the lorry drivers fault.
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its hardling surprising however. How many times a day do you come across people that

A) brake approaching speed cameras in an NSL doing 40mph.

B) dont use indicators, or them at the wrong time / place

C) don't know to give way to the right on mini roundabouts

D) don't know how to merge in turn and all queue up in the same lane

E) insist on hogging the outside lane on multi lane roads because they have a right turn to make 10 miles further up the road

Its just part of a wider pattern of general ignorance of the rules of the road that they all read when they did their theory test.
 
Fr0dders said:
its hardling surprising however. How many times a day do you come across people that

A) brake approaching speed cameras in an NSL doing 40mph.

B) dont use indicators, or them at the wrong time / place

C) don't know to give way to the right on mini roundabouts

D) don't know how to merge in turn and all queue up in the same lane

E) insist on hogging the outside lane on multi lane roads because they have a right turn to make 10 miles further up the road

Its just part of a wider pattern of general ignorance of the rules of the road that they all read when they did their theory test.
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Oh lol
 
It's a difficult one. The Focus should not have tried to pull out in front of the Lorry. At the same time, the Lorry driver should have seen a possible issue could arise and just let the Focus out. He did seem to speed up to close off the gap so because of that, it makes it look much more like it's his fault.
 
Lopéz said:
Oh lol
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for reference this wasn't aimed at you.

You raised a valid point that morally speaking both could have prevented the accident, regardless as to the cut and dry "blame" that the highway code / insurance companies applied solely to the driver.
 
Fr0dders said:
I think at that point he was thinking the car driver was braking and thus was going to merge behind him. Him speeding up would gave helped that. However it appears the car changed its mind and then tried to merge in front
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Agree. Plus the drivers POV is further away than the camera so probably lost sight of the car before the camera did.
 
Fuzz said:
Maybe he was being professional it's difficult for the camera to pick that up.
If he thought "this dude coming down the slip isn't going fast enough to make it in front of me safely, and the gap's too tight anyway, I'll speed up a bit, let him in behind.... WTF is he doing now... Oh s......."
That was his ONLY option.
The car had a simple one... STOP
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Orionaut said:
This is precisely my point.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN!

And the fact that it wasn't is entirely down to the POV drivers.

The POV driver was severely tailgating (In both this case and the case of the other clip with the silver car)

The gap was only a second or less. This is way too close for any vehicle under any circumstances.
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So, presumably, when you join a motorway you look across and think to yourself "That foolish HGV driver is FAR too close to the vehicle in front. I know, I'll just nip into that tiny gap which will improve matters no end"
 
Very bizarre layout though isnt it, the gap between the solid white lines is sufficiently narrow that surely only the most expertly piloted trucks for example could avoid crossing the line?
 
[TW]Fox;26369432 said:
Very bizarre layout though isnt it, the gap between the solid white lines is sufficiently narrow that surely only the most expertly piloted trucks for example could avoid crossing the line?
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The truck at the start managed fine :)
 
I'm glad this thread is still rumbling along like a fully laden artic. :D

Guess what my car camera picked up this morning ;)

Upload incoming (having issues with my internet so may crash before it finishes uploading)

What happens when you have two trucks performing the exact same manoeuvre as the OP's video instead of a car and a truck...

This (in super slow mo just for you lot. :D )

 
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