Mourinho back to Chelsea? The managerial merry-go-round

Tom84 said:
Pellegrini is the owners choice to replace Mancini according to Ballague
Click to expand...
I gave up listening to what he has to say because he changes his mind every week so when a deal comes off he can say "See I told you Falcao will go to Chelsea/Man City/Real"

As for Pellegrini being the owners choice, I really cannot see why. All he has to his name is a semi final with Villareal in the CL and taking Malaga to the quarters this year.
If the owner want's european success then hire Benitez.

It's irrelevant anyway, the only way I saw Mancini being sacked is if Guardiola was still available. As it stands there is no stand out candidate out there that would make it worthwhile replacing Mancini.
 
Where it belongs you Chelsea boys are cute, 3 titles in 57 years, none for the past 3 years and you think it's yours :o
 
Last edited:
Admiral Huddy said:
I've never seen what all the fuss is about Mourinho. He inherits already established teams, has a large surplus of cash to spend and does, got the gift of the gab and everyone think he's a god. Sir Alex on the other hand built a side which was once in pieces, turned it around and maintained that level for the last 20 years or so. No manager i can think of world wide as ever come even half a close to what AF has achieved.
.
Click to expand...

Come off it, Manu where hardly a poor side he made good. He had years to build a good side by having far more money at his disposal than any other team in the league. For years. The spending may have been different because Manu actually made the money they spent but he still did the same thing. If he wanted players it was leaked he was interested and then the money was offered. He did it with cash as much as any other manager for the majority of his success.

Most of the other big european clubs demand Champions league success, in that regard Fergie cannot even come close to matching Mourinho. With the players and sides fergie has had over the years he should have won it atleast 5 times and I'm pretty sure Mourinho would have with the same sides.

Whether or not all the rest of his 'ego' is worth it though is another matter :D

What established teams has he inherited? Anymore so than Manu were an established team. Chelsea perhaps but he is the one that pushed them over the line.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
I gave up listening to what he has to say because he changes his mind every week so when a deal comes off he can say "See I told you Falcao will go to Chelsea/Man City/Real"

As for Pellegrini being the owners choice, I really cannot see why. All he has to his name is a semi final with Villareal in the CL and taking Malaga to the quarters this year.
If the owner want's european success then hire Benitez.

It's irrelevant anyway, the only way I saw Mancini being sacked is if Guardiola was still available. As it stands there is no stand out candidate out there that would make it worthwhile replacing Mancini.
Click to expand...

No worthwhile replacement?!

You could dress an apple up and put it in charge, and you would still see an improvement.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Come off it, Manu where hardly a poor side he made good. He had years to build a good side by having far more money at his disposal than any other team in the league. For years. The spending may have been different because Manu actually made the money they spent but he still did the same thing. If he wanted players it was leaked he was interested and then the money was offered. He did it with cash as much as any other manager for the majority of his success.

Most of the other big european clubs demand Champions league success, in that regard Fergie cannot even come close to matching Mourinho. With the players and sides fergie has had over the years he should have won it atleast 5 times and I'm pretty sure Mourinho would have with the same sides.
Click to expand...

In fairness to Sir Alex he also managed to break the Old Firm hegemony with Aberdeen and win the European Cup Winners Cup with them and the European Super Cup. I know it's "only" the Scottish League for many people but given the disparity in resources and fan base it was a hell of an achievement.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Come off it, Manu where hardly a poor side he made good. He had years to build a good side by having far more money at his disposal than any other team in the league. For years. The spending may have been different because Manu actually made the money they spent but he still did the same thing. If he wanted players it was leaked he was interested and then the money was offered. He did it with cash as much as any other manager for the majority of his success.

Most of the other big european clubs demand Champions league success, in that regard Fergie cannot even come close to matching Mourinho. With the players and sides fergie has had over the years he should have won it atleast 5 times and I'm pretty sure Mourinho would have with the same sides.

Whether or not all the rest of his 'ego' is worth it though is another matter :D

What established teams has he inherited? Anymore so than Manu were an established team. Chelsea perhaps but he is the one that pushed them over the line.
Click to expand...

Weren't they? I recall at one one point Manu languishing in the bottom half of the table and Fergie on the brink of a sacking . The FA Cup and subsequent CWC -v- Barcelona win a year later changed their fortunes IMO. What I admire about fergie is his loyalty to the club, sticks to his principles and reminds his players that no one player is bigger than the club... I can't see Mourinho sticking around long when things get tough in the board room and the cash isn't available. That said, I'd love to see Mourinho as Spurs but i know that's not going to happen as Spurs don't have the prerequisites I aforementioned.
 
Must have imagined Giggs, Scholes, Butt, 2* Neville's , Becks etc that cost next to nothing and have been a core of the side throughout majority of SAF's years (not to mention all the kids Utd have tried and failed with)

edit - Even Ferdinand and Rooney , who unquestionably cost a lot of money by anyone's standards have been with the team the best part of 10 years (ie its not like City and Chelsea who go out nearly every summer and spend an even larger fortune to replace already very good players)
 
Last edited:
Admiral Huddy said:
Weren't they? I recall at one one point Manu languishing in the bottom half of the table and Fergie on the brink of a sacking . The FA Cup and subsequent CWC -v- Barcelona win a year later changed their fortunes IMO. What I admire about fergie is his loyalty to the club, sticks to his principles and reminds his players that no one player is bigger than the club... I can't see Mourinho sticking around long when things get tough in the board room and the cash isn't available. That said, I'd love to see Mourinho as Spurs but i know that's not going to happen as Spurs don't have the prerequisites I aforementioned.
Click to expand...

It's not like they still weren't the biggest club in the league and turning a club from the bottom half to top half in the old league was far easier back then. It's not like he took QPR to be champions for years. He took Manu a club that had a huge fan base and plenty of money. If they wanted players they pretty much took them.

I think these later titles are more impressive where he's beating back teams spending far more money and with the ability to spend more.
 
I agree but the money wasn't around then.. It was a completely different ball game ( no pun intended) to what it is now. Remember we were European outcasts and attendances were low. The timing of United's uprising was perfect.. just before the Sky's cash injection and the PL. I agree with you on his latest exploits. I wonder how on earth he maintains the consistency he has but that's what makes him a far better manager than Mourinho will ever be by a long shot. IMO :)
 
FrankJH said:
Even Ferdinand and Rooney , who unquestionably cost a lot of money by anyone's standards have been with the team the best part of 10 years (ie its not like City and Chelsea who go out nearly every summer and spend an even larger fortune to replace already very good players)
Click to expand...

The thing is you could argue that Ferdinand was "an even larger fortune to replace already very good player" in Stam, likewise RvN was an expensive (in monetary terms) replacement for Andy Cole. Fergie has bought plenty of other £15m+ players during the Abramovich era e.g:

Carrick
Nani
Anderson
Hargreaves
Jones
Kagawa
RvP
De Gea
Young
Valencia
Tevez (loan fee)
Berbatov

I wouldn't disagree that Chelsea/MC have frittered a lot of cash away but there's about 6 midfielders/wingers in the above list still at the club and they can't all play at once.
 
I don't even rate Mourinho as highly as before. He seems to buy a lot of crap, and just hope one of them turns out great. Fair enough he is good tactically, but he's got a damn good attacking squad at Real Madrid, and I still find them incredibly dull to watch.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Who doesn't.

My concern as a chelsea fan would be he clearly wants/wanted the united job but now has to settle for 2nd best because the united job isn't available. He wanted to be able to say stuff you to Madrid and go to united.
Click to expand...

The fact he bought Ferreira for Chelsea makes him worse than any other manager about. :p

I know all managers buy some crap, but his transfer strategy seems to be based on buying everyone that has a good rating on FM/Fifa, and hoping that they end up being a world beater.

Edit: I also think Man Utd should aim towards someone with a little more focus on developing players, like Klopp.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom