Move away from Gmail

George Hincapie said:
I have bought the paid for version of Proton Mail. So far, so good. Quick question though; it seems I can't create folders to store mail as I would do in Hotmail, and have to use tags instead. That's fine, but if I tag sent items (archiving at the same time), then delete those e-mails from Sent Items, they disappear from the Archive too.

Am I doing something wrong?
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slightly off-topic : but I always bcc myself on all emails I send, so I can get the complete chronology of a conversation from Inbox , it also facilitates filing.

.. but absence of folders on prontomail, whilst I can imagine this will simplify databases for them, sounds restricting/non-standard if you subsequently want to export emails, and hopefully whilst in their system, possibility of accidental deletion of emails is not increased.

EDIT: absence of folders controversial amongst their clients - if you did not already post that.
 
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George Hincapie said:
I've just had a look at that. I like that the interface allows the creation of folders, but OMG it's not nice to look at compared to Proton Mail :(
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mailbox.org seems to have IMAP, with TLS encrytion so you can plug any email reader onto it outlook/tbird/... I am failing to grasp the benfit of ProtonMail in comparison where you seem locked into their reader.
Local cached folders which comes with imap is imhop very useful, giving fast searches
(I have been to lazy to swap back to tbird and have been suffering gmail-web interface for last 6 months)
Hopefully the ProtonMail reader also gives ability to paste in images directly from the local cut-buffer as with gmail-web had to get a flake'ish plugin.
 
Just started a trial with Fastmail and if I like it, will look to simplify my life and condense three gmail accounts and two outlook accounts into one Fastmail.

Reason I chose Fastmail is that I have bagged my first name @ fastmail. None of the others had this or allowed a four letter name.
 
George Hincapie said:
I've just had a look at that. I like that the interface allows the creation of folders, but OMG it's not nice to look at compared to Proton Mail :(
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It's cheap, open source and if you read about their PGP implementation it's the only one I've found that actually encrypts messages as they come in, as opposed to putting them on an encrypted volume that needs to go offline to encrypt the contents. (if any of that is important to you)

Like has been pointed out, just use an external client K9, on the phone and TB on the desktop and ignore the gui. It's all about the backend with this company and for that they seem to know their stuff. The owner has written books on mail setup.

Have a poke about on their website and you'll see what I mean. The whole point of moving away from gmail is the lack of privacy. These are the strongest advocates of privacy around.

https://mailbox.org/en/guiding-principles/
 
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PapaLazaru said:
Just started a trial with Fastmail and if I like it, will look to simplify my life and condense three gmail accounts and two outlook accounts into one Fastmail.

Reason I chose Fastmail is that I have bagged my first name @ fastmail. None of the others had this or allowed a four letter name.
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You should always use your own domain for email so you're never tied into 1 provider.
 
ScoTTyBEEE said:
It's cheap, open source and if you read about their PGP implementation it's the only one I've found that actually encrypts messages as they come in, as opposed to putting them on an encrypted volume that needs to go offline to encrypt the contents. (if any of that is important to you)

Like has been pointed out, just use an external client K9, on the phone and TB on the desktop and ignore the gui. It's all about the backend with this company and for that they seem to know their stuff. The owner has written books on mail setup.

Have a poke about on their website and you'll see what I mean. The whole point of moving away from gmail is the lack of privacy. These are the strongest advocates of privacy around.

https://mailbox.org/en/guiding-principles/
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They'll had over emails if asked. Proton will not as it is outside EU.
 
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