I left my last place and explained to my new one that I took a risk and was mis-sold a job. They understood and it does happen, more often then not because you focus on selling yourself without thinking about if what they are offering is legit
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So revisiting this thread, I've just received an offer for a new role at a company 200 yards down the road from where I am now. Things have changed where I am currently employed as I got the opportunity to make a sideways move into a more project oriented role, but the root issue of the company politics remains.
I'm struggling to decide what to do, the offer is a decent one, around an 18% pay increase from my current role, however it would involve working more "normal" hours (8:30-5 vs 6:30-3) and the "flexible working" is seen more of a "on occasion" rather than all the time perk. The rest of the package (pensions/perks/holidays) are similar enough to not warrant discussion either way, but the role itself is one where I'll have to be taking on a partial people-management position which I have done previously, but stepped away from in order to pursue a more technical specialism.
I do enjoy the current "early" hours as it means more time at home when my little boy (21 month old) is awake, but the money would also come in handy for providing a better quality of life down the line (not that his current quality of life is bad by any means).
Also I'm wondering about if I just hand in my notice, or I engage the current employer in any kind of discussion.
I've never had to think so much about accepting or rejecting a role before.
I'm struggling to decide what to do, the offer is a decent one, around an 18% pay increase from my current role, however it would involve working more "normal" hours (8:30-5 vs 6:30-3) and the "flexible working" is seen more of a "on occasion" rather than all the time perk. The rest of the package (pensions/perks/holidays) are similar enough to not warrant discussion either way, but the role itself is one where I'll have to be taking on a partial people-management position which I have done previously, but stepped away from in order to pursue a more technical specialism.
I do enjoy the current "early" hours as it means more time at home when my little boy (21 month old) is awake, but the money would also come in handy for providing a better quality of life down the line (not that his current quality of life is bad by any means).
Also I'm wondering about if I just hand in my notice, or I engage the current employer in any kind of discussion.
I've never had to think so much about accepting or rejecting a role before.
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Ask yourself; do you want the new job?
More money is only a part of the puzzle. Are they willing to let you be flexible with your hours? E.g 7:30-4
It depends what salary you’re talking but 20% can be a hefty uplift, so you should think long term about the promotion opportunities that the new role will hold.
Your son won’t be young forever but you could be stuck in your current role for a lot longer if you don’t take the risk.
More money is only a part of the puzzle. Are they willing to let you be flexible with your hours? E.g 7:30-4
It depends what salary you’re talking but 20% can be a hefty uplift, so you should think long term about the promotion opportunities that the new role will hold.
Your son won’t be young forever but you could be stuck in your current role for a lot longer if you don’t take the risk.
Thanks @EVH, that's some good angles to consider.
The new role itself is likely to be a worthwile additon to my CV, both in terms of the title and the workload/responsibilities/technologies used. It is going to be a lot of hard work, not that I shy away from hard work, but it will be a considerable step-change from my current day-to-day.
Unfortunately they aren’t too flexible when it comes to expected hours in the office, but I would accrue additional holidays year on year which is something I don’t currently receive.
The money will be noticable, but due to taxation at 40% for the entirety of the salary uplift, not as noticeable as one would like, it would however afford me the opportunity to roughly triple what i put away for a rainy day, which is nice.
I guess I need to see if my current employer are willing to counter-offer before making the jump.
The new role itself is likely to be a worthwile additon to my CV, both in terms of the title and the workload/responsibilities/technologies used. It is going to be a lot of hard work, not that I shy away from hard work, but it will be a considerable step-change from my current day-to-day.
Unfortunately they aren’t too flexible when it comes to expected hours in the office, but I would accrue additional holidays year on year which is something I don’t currently receive.
The money will be noticable, but due to taxation at 40% for the entirety of the salary uplift, not as noticeable as one would like, it would however afford me the opportunity to roughly triple what i put away for a rainy day, which is nice.
I guess I need to see if my current employer are willing to counter-offer before making the jump.
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Don’t bother with a counter offer. You’ve made the decision to look elsewhere... if you tell your employer then you’re a) likely to mark your card b) regret not taking the opportunity.
Ask yourself; do you want the job? If the answer is yes then put your notice in with a smile and tell your current employer that you’re leaving for xyz reason. Don’t be negative about the politics etc, that’ll just burn bridges.
It sounds like the new job is better all round (20% higher wage, more holidays, none of the politics which you’ve described) with the downside the hours.
On the hours... I refuse to believe that they won’t budge on that, especially if you mention having a newborn/young child. I understand why they might not want someone finishing at 3pm but a happy medium would be to push for a 4pm finish and see what they say. I’ve always worked 8-4pm when given the option and in my experience it’s seen as normal as 9-5pm, so they probably won’t even bat an eyelid if you asked.
Ask yourself; do you want the job? If the answer is yes then put your notice in with a smile and tell your current employer that you’re leaving for xyz reason. Don’t be negative about the politics etc, that’ll just burn bridges.
It sounds like the new job is better all round (20% higher wage, more holidays, none of the politics which you’ve described) with the downside the hours.
On the hours... I refuse to believe that they won’t budge on that, especially if you mention having a newborn/young child. I understand why they might not want someone finishing at 3pm but a happy medium would be to push for a 4pm finish and see what they say. I’ve always worked 8-4pm when given the option and in my experience it’s seen as normal as 9-5pm, so they probably won’t even bat an eyelid if you asked.
You do need to ask how much the flexibility is worth to you.
I was discussing with a colleague last week as i have the luxury of being able to WFH and don't have fixed start/end hours (some days i'll start at 8, other days i'll start at 10). All depends on business needs. The money i save from commuting into an office, or being able to start later/finish early is worth quite a substantial amount to me. So unless a new employer was offering me a considerable jump, it wouldn't be worth it to me.