MSI: *Offical* N460GTX Hawk 1GB OC Edition thread

[MSI-Guru]

So is this Hawk a limited edition sort of thing or is this going to be made for the foreseeable future?

Will be made for the foreseeable future. The N460GTX Hawk is the second in the series, following the R5770 Hawk. There will be more in future, and maybe even some limited edition versions with higher clock speeds.

On top of the range products, we have the Lightning range. Currently the R5870 Lightning, but soon to be followed by an nVidia equivalent The lightnings are even more fine tuned for getting the most from the top end GPU's.

 

[MSI-Guru]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's ridiculous that these premium overclocking oriented cards evidently dont have cherry-picked cores on them?? So the sell is actually 'pay a premium for beefed up circuitry and cooling and you might get to benefit from it if you're lucky in the core lottery!'. Get a so-so core (most likely) and you may as well have just bought the cheapest version of the card. Great - sign me up.

Not.

At current price you save your self less than £10 between this and the cheapest... which arguably worth it for the cooler alone... surely?

P.S - If the GPU's were cherry picked, the stock clock would be much higher, and so would the cost of the card, pretty much exponentially.

 

[MSI-Guru]

MSI-Guru

I have ordered the HAWK through Overclockers, does my card come with Assassins Creed 2 or have all the stock gone already?

There is no guarantee that cards shipped now will have the bundle, as the vast majority of stock is without it which is why the game has been removed from the image.

Cross your fingers

 

[MSI-Guru]

Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but. The thing is standard or 'lesser' 460s, including for example the MSI Cyclone, or even a Palit if you must, can achieve well over 900 MHz with a good core - such results are everywhere. That suggests the extra PCB upgrades of something like the Hawk are not required to reach that sort of level. i.e. they will only come into play when paired with an absolutely exceptional core, and then, and only then, those PCB upgrades may help that core reach the lofty heights of, say, 950+ MHz. Most cores wont even do 900 MHz whatever PCB they're on, so that brings me back to my original point - why make a card like the Hawk when chances are the random core it gets paired with wont get anywhere near taking benefit of the fantastic PCB. A great PCB needs to be gauranteed to be paired with a great core or the product is a crazy proposition imho.

But at the current price I'd buy one tomorrow if I was in the market for a GPU, just on the off chance the core on it is worthy of the PCB

EDIT: missed that post by mikeo - at least somebody understands my point

Point understood. When cherry picking the GPU, where do you draw the line though? The higher the line, the more expensive the card.

The hawk GPU's are cherry picked to the point they are guaranteed stable at 780MHZ under any conditions. For this it is likely they have been verified to something well above 780MHz in order to guarantee long term stability, something not done on a cheaper card.

Side Note: Also worth noting that there is no way of knowing what speed the 900MHz OC GPU on the palit card, would be getting if i was on the hawk

I do understand your valid point, although the reality if we cherry picked the GPU's to 900MHz say, they would be shipped at 900MHz and be a hell of a lot higher to the point you would not be happy with the price. At least with the current price of the hawk, even if you run at stock its pretty good value.

My hawk came today and died today

RIP

what happened

 

[MSI-Guru]

Well it came i installed it then after around 90 mins of being turned on my pc suddenly shut down

when i turned it back on i had no display and was greeted by that lovely smell of burning silicon

must say im disappointed

when i first opened it was really impressed with the card and cooler
felt really high quality and solid

ordered another one that should be here tomorrow

hope the next one is ok

Sorry to hear that... Take some piccies or a video of the unboxing of your new card when it arrives and I will send you a tshirt and a few goodies to make up for the lost day of gaming. I am sure you will have no problems with the new one

 

[MSI-Guru]

@ MSI-Guru: Fair enough - I guess it all comes down to economics in the end. 10 years ago, if I'd properly considered the premium I was paying for my 'tested and gauranteed to overclock to 900 or whatever it was' PIII 650, including import from USA tax, I probably should have just bought a standard 900 in the first place (and overclocked that) Ah the folly of youth.

I know the feeling It does work out good value when you get to the top end of products, however the cost is already really high then (at least as a cost per frame goes)

Well if there is some degree of cherry picking and testing involved in giving the Hawk's stock clock rating, I guess at least your chances are much better of getting a good core. I'm almost tempted to sell my 5850 and get one of these Hawks on special offer just to show my approval. Probably wouldn't gain anything though would I? Or would I?...

Lets say for the next 5 people, anyone posting interesting unboxing, or videos in this thread will get a freebie pack from me (what's in it, nobody knows... you will have to wait and see).

 

[MSI-Guru]

if you have to rma an msi card where do you have to send it to

'an msi card' ? Send back to your place of purchase, I would hope OCUK

 

[MSI-Guru]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzQ-rPL_gY

thanks guru

nice try

 

[MSI-Guru]

Well, here is my entry! But how to make it interesting? We can compare it with my old 8800GTX, first the size of it,

Nice entry. PM me your address

 

[MSI-Guru]

So im guessing this is the reason for the rapid Hawk price drop

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20384-msi-rolling-out-new-gtx-460-hawk

A pimped version of the Hawk is on the cards yes, however expect it to be a fair bit more expensive It will also be a limited edition, with limited stock.

 

[MSI-Guru]

meh, that's one step too far. The current one can be overclocked to that with out any problems

As I said its a limited edition, the Hawk currently on offer on OCUK is the model which will continue long term....