Murder of 87 year old in the street
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So you're honestly claiming that the Tories reducing the number of front line police by 20,000 had no effect on crime?
The Home Office disagrees with you, but do please carry on defending the indefensible. It is most amusing...
Police cuts ‘likely contributed’ to rise in violent crime, leaked report reveals
Leaked Home Office documents undermine Amber Rudd’s claim that police cuts were not to blame for increase in violent offending
www.theguardian.com
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Country has gone to ***** under the tories.
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Some might counter that near uncontrolled immigration from countries with culturally totally different populations with a strong disinclination to be as one with our indigenous people might be the cause of such rampant violence and criminality in our inner and outer cities.
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Yes they could point out the uncontrolled immigration under the Tory government, not exactly a counter though.
So nothing to do with the 12 year long campaign of managed decline of Britain's Public Services, youth services, probation services and court services?
It's all the fault of the brown skinned people.
Obviously.
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I agree, the Conservatives have, alongside Labour and coalition governments been utterly lamentable in grasping the nettle of immigration statistics. we even have our so called charities poking their interference in with physically assisting illegal immigration, which is appalling.
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Correct, statistically the escalation of violent and / or drug crime in our inner cities can indeed be clearly seen to come via ethnically divided perpetrators. If they were law abiding any decline in the 4 services you cite would be irrelevant.
Do you have any statistics or research to back this up? Or shall we just file this away under the heading 'racist drivel'?
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"ethnically divided perpetrators"give it a rest
What nomenclature would you suggest that doesn't raise the hackles of the politically correct Mr. Clandestin Brun?
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I don't, I'm a mechanic, but there are umpteen official UK bodies that collate such information, and the politically neutral ones suggest I am not citing "racist drivel" but instead, racial facts.
So share your sources and please remember that BNP newsletters don't count as reputable sources of information...
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Aye aye, is the Sallop Arigcolarian playing up? 
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You only have to look at any newspaper's crime pages that show photographs and name names to see you are clutching at imaginary straws. But to just pull one source of Google:
London’s 2021 murders examined: key figures in the UK capital's homicides - AOAV
In 2021, London witnessed a record increase in teenage homicides primarily due to knife and gun violence, with a significant rise in cases involving male teenagers, particularly in socio-economically challenged areas like Newham.
aoav.org.uk
The statistics are irrefutable, damning and enlightening.
Do you perhaps have a horse in this race?
Let me flatter your seemingly contrary opinion on the perpetrators of such crimes, and offer you the chance to counter cite data showing inner city gun, knife and drug crime is, in the main, carried out by indigenous white people here in the UK. I am a patient man...
Sooooooo regarding below, what parts of a performer's race, creed, colour, religion or dress do you need to consider before listening to them? It might be useful to just, ya know, list some races, or skin colour (for example) with a simple yes/no? Given you're so 'unapologetic' about it you might as well give us some insight into your decision-making process.
Ahh, I knew you were down as the biggest John Coltrane fan. It really shines through in your posts. Giant Steps, eh. Just for you.
Sometimes it's like reading slanging matches on twitter. People screaming sources when they don't like what they read or crying out pointing racist, or alt right and so on. Or it doesn't align with their facts trying to state it as the actual facts. Sometimes I never thought I'd see the day, sometimes, that there is almost no difference between twitter and so many OcUK forum members.
There is hardly a day goes by it's the same discussions, same kind of imaginary point scoring to achieve what on a forum? That you're winning?
There is hardly a day goes by it's the same discussions, same kind of imaginary point scoring to achieve what on a forum? That you're winning?
You only have to look at any newspaper's crime pages that show photographs and name names to see you are clutching at imaginary straws. But to just pull one source of Google:
London’s 2021 murders examined: key figures in the UK capital's homicides - AOAV
In 2021, London witnessed a record increase in teenage homicides primarily due to knife and gun violence, with a significant rise in cases involving male teenagers, particularly in socio-economically challenged areas like Newham.
The statistics are irrefutable, damning and enlightening.
Do you perhaps have a horse in this race?
Let me flatter your seemingly contrary opinion on the perpetrators of such crimes, and offer you the chance to counter cite data showing inner city gun, knife and drug crime is, in the main, carried out by indigenous white people here in the UK. I am a patient man...
So you cherry pick one small aspect of crime statistics. One that will back up and reinforce your pretty strong racial prejudices and use it as proof that
"ZOMG!!!!11one All teh crimes are committed by teh back people!!!!"
That's laughable and a clear misuse of statistics. But when we actually look at the breakdown of arrest rates by ethnicity per 1000 people, we actually see a decline of arrests of black people.
Arrests
Black people were over twice as likely to be arrested as white people – there were 20.4 arrests for every 1,000 black people, and 9.4 for every 1,000 white people.
www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk
But bearing in mind that most financial crime is committed by white people, does that make all white people thieves? Or does your racial stereotyping only go one way?
So you cherry pick one small aspect of crime statistics. One that will back up and reinforce your pretty strong racial prejudices and use it as proof that
"ZOMG!!!!11one All teh crimes are committed by teh back people!!!!"
That's laughable and a clear misuse of statistics. But when we actually look at the breakdown of arrest rates by ethnicity per 1000 people, we actually see a decline of arrests of black people.
Arrests
Black people were over twice as likely to be arrested as white people – there were 20.4 arrests for every 1,000 black people, and 9.4 for every 1,000 white people.
But bearing in mind that most financial crime is committed by white people, does that make all white people thieves? Or does your racial stereotyping only go one way?
Financial crime isn't thievery. The numbers are clear. Black people are far more likely to commit a crime than a white person. You don't have to like it but tough.
And you do get arrests don't equal crime, right? Has it occurred to you arrests on black people are declining because of political pressure?
I think the common term is "minorities", however I'm not entirely sure on where you're heading with the statement and it may not actually be the syntax you use which stirs the pot...