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dirtydog said:
VIRII are you saying that we should all use the simplest, dumbest language we can in order so as to not appear pretentious to ill-educated plebs? That seems to be the inference of what you are saying; here and in the SC thread.
Are you saying you are superior then dirtydog?

sorry couldn't help it :p
 
dirtydog said:
VIRII are you saying that we should all use the simplest, dumbest language we can in order so as to not appear pretentious to ill-educated plebs? That seems to be the inference of what you are saying; here and in the SC thread.
No not at all. Where have I said "use the simplest possible language"?

Conversely are you saying "make your posts as deliberately wordy and unnecessarily obfuscated as possible" in order to try and appear intelligent?

That appears to be what you are saying....
 
I think that one should be able to post in whatever manner they wish, if people are too thick to understand they can look it up and get cleverer, that's got to be better than making clever people stupider by making them speak thick.

tongue slightly in cheek, principle sound though.. :D
 
Rich_L said:
I think that one should be able to post in whatever manner they wish, if people are too thick to understand they can look it up and get cleverer, that's got to be better than making clever people stupider by making them speak thick.

tongue slightly in cheek, principle sound though.. :D
Knowledge is not a measure of intelligence :)
Deliberately using obscure words to try and infer some sort of linguistic superiority or to attempt to give credence to your argument is far from clever, it is infact quite stupid as it results in the opposite to intended effect.

It just smacks of some little kid getting all uppity and onto his little rocking high horse pulling faces at people. Particularly when it is just more semantic drivel as to the exact meaning of a word.

Looking down your nose at people with less interest in expanding their language capabilities beyond your own is equally pitiful. Typical of the pro PC pro multicultural posters approach to everything though. Claim to like diversity and then look down on those who disagree or don't share their views. Vomit inducing hypocrisy :)
 
VIRII said:
Knowledge is not a measure of intelligence :)
Deliberately using obscure words to try and infer some sort of linguistic superiority or to attempt to give credence to your argument is far from clever, it is infact quite stupid as it results in the opposite to intended effect.

It just smacks of some little kid getting all uppity and onto his little rocking high horse pulling faces at people. Particularly when it is just more semantic drivel as to the exact meaning of a word.

Looking down your nose at people with less interest in expanding their language capabilities beyond your own is equally pitiful. Typical of the pro PC pro multicultural posters approach to everything though. Claim to like diversity and then look down on those who disagree or don't share their views. Vomit inducing hypocrisy :)
I know it must be tough down there, but with support and hard work you can join us up here.

My opinion is that this thread exists because rather than being on the losing end of an argument you're attempting to obfuscate the issue by descending into arguments about the usage of language ;)
 
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VIRII said:
Knowledge is not a measure of intelligence :)
Deliberately using obscure words to try and infer some sort of linguistic superiority or to attempt to give credence to your argument is far from clever, it is infact quite stupid as it results in the opposite to intended effect.

It just smacks of some little kid getting all uppity and onto his little rocking high horse pulling faces at people. Particularly when it is just more semantic drivel as to the exact meaning of a word.

Looking down your nose at people with less interest in expanding their language capabilities beyond your own is equally pitiful. Typical of the pro PC pro multicultural posters approach to everything though. Claim to like diversity and then look down on those who disagree or don't share their views. Vomit inducing hypocrisy :)
It couldn't be that someone used the language that they felt best got their point across; to you, anybody using words of more than one syllable is clearly doing so simply to 'look clever' right?

By the way, to the rest of GD: this is what it's like in SC all the time. Come and join us, we're a friendly bunch really...
 
VIRII said:
Gah he got me making a typo and I genuinely tend to check for them in my posts as well. :(

Refulgent .... that is a cracking word. Although you admit to using the words not to communicate but to confuse.

I wouldn't use uncommon words on a forum as people may believe me to be going for "one-upmanship" or could interpret it as being obnoxious. I genuinely enjoy learning new words, however - I love reading :D

Nothing wrong with having a love for the English language when many others around you are destroying it. Just take the Jade Goody crew as an example ("Awight geezah, I bin dahn da benefits office innit.")

As for other cool words, I do use "Defenestrate" and "Deracinate" sometimes.
 
aardvark said:
strangely enough, yes i have - but boss likes to say long words to confuse me, or should that be, obsfuscate me.

It does seems that some people do like to use words with the intention of confusing others. It seems that they derive some sort of superiority over others by doing so. Perhaps they were bullied at school or have some self worth issues, or maybe they have tiny manhoods. Is your boss just being an idiot towards you or is he jovially pulling your leg?
 
dirtydog said:
It couldn't be that someone used the language that they felt best got their point across; to you, anybody using words of more than one syllable is clearly doing so simply to 'look clever' right?

By the way, to the rest of GD: this is what it's like in SC all the time. Come and join us, we're a friendly bunch really...

It could be but when the language significantly deviates from their norms just as their argument is falling to pieces I'd say that they were specifically chosen for effect rather than content :)

Right?

As for the one syllable comments - do you believe that is what I think?
 
VIRII said:
It does seems that some people do like to use words with the intention of confusing others.

In my case, the boss in the old job was full of self-importance and needed taking down a peg or two. He didn't understand what egregious or insidious meant until I directed them at him and he had to look them up :p You can see why quixotic also came into play... hehe
 
Solari said:
I wouldn't use uncommon words on a forum as people may believe me to be going for "one-upmanship" or could interpret it as being obnoxious. I genuinely enjoy learning new words, however - I love reading :D

Nothing wrong with having a love for the English language when many others around you are destroying it. Just take the Jade Goody crew as an example ("Awight geezah, I bin dahn da benefits office innit.")

As for other cool words, I do use "Defenestrate" and "Deracinate" sometimes.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with enjoying the language or learning new words etc, etc.
However do you think it is "right" to look down upon those who do not share your interests?
 
Solari said:
In my case, the boss in the old job was full of self-importance and needed taking down a peg or two. He didn't understand what egregious or insidious meant until I directed them at him and he had to look them up :p You can see why quixotic also came into play... hehe

Hehe :) I don't particularly like people like your boss. Does he post in SC?
 
VIRII said:
It could be but when the language significantly deviates from their norms just as their argument is falling to pieces I'd say that they were specifically chosen for effect rather than content :)

Right?
If we are talking about robmiller in the SC thread, then as far as I can recall he has always demonstrated a large vocabulary and excellent English skills.

As for the one syllable comments - do you believe that is what I think?
I wouldn't have thought so, until your posts on this matter in the last day or two. It seems akin to reverse snobbery.
 
VIRII said:
I agree that there is nothing wrong with enjoying the language or learning new words etc, etc.
However do you think it is "right" to look down upon those who do not share your interests?

If I'm talking to someone who won't understand, then I just simplify what I'm saying in an attempt to avoid coming across as patronising. If they're not interested in furthering their vocabulary then fair enough.

I do think that everyone should have some form of interest in expressing themselves adequately, but each to their own. I do resent people that believe that grunts and other odd noises count as a valid response, however.
 
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dirtydog said:
If we are talking about robmiller in the SC thread, then as far as I can recall he has always demonstrated a large vocabulary and excellent English skills.


I wouldn't have thought so, until your posts on this matter in the last day or two. It seems akin to reverse snobbery.

Rob uses "highbrow" words when his arguments start falling down. Read the thread. The sudden use of such a convoluted and sublimely ridiculous set of words was a last ditch attempt to regain a little ground by him.

There is a lot of demonstrated snobbery in SC. A superiority complex with some people genuinely believing that being educated makes you superior to others and reflects you as a person and your worth amongst humanity.

I think that simply shows conceit, a trait that is reviled generally and is indicitive of undesireable apsects of human nature, hardly superior, if anything inferior.

Such pompous behaviour and attitudes deserve to be ridiculed.
 
VIRII said:
Rob uses "highbrow" words when his arguments start falling down. Read the thread. The sudden use of such a convoluted and sublimely ridiculous set of words was a last ditch attempt to regain a little ground by him.
Was it?

There is a lot of demonstrated snobbery in SC. A superiority complex with some people genuinely believing that being educated makes you superior to others and reflects you as a person and your worth amongst humanity.
If two people are equal in all ways, yet one is uneducated and has no interest in changing it, and the other is educated and strives to learn and better themselves, isn't the latter person superior to the former? If not, why?
 
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