my computer dies if you put a graphics card in it.....

oneofmanyjoes

oneofmanyjoes

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hello,

symptoms...

pc will run and do anything its supposed to, then for no reason, at no particular interval, and not when your dong anything in particular, it dies, i dont mean shuts down, i mean like someone had pulled the power out, then it restarts, goes to the windows did not shut down etc start windows in safe mode or normal or whatever

some times it does it while doing nothing, ideling on the desktop, sometimes if your watching a vid and or on the net. sometimes i can be stressing it in solidworks or in prime 95, it also does it in safe mode, and it does it with any combination of ram in differant slots

when i first built it i had a dodgy ram stick so i sent the kit back to scan and started again

i ran mem test on this set of sticks for hours and they seem fine

after loooots of faffing and trying different things it was suggested to me to try my computer with out a graphics card

and sure enough, with on board graphics it works fine, stressed and run for 48 hours no problems

i then tried with a friends graphics card that we know works, and it does the same thing

sometimes it will work for an hour and a half, sometimes it will work for less then a min, 5 times in a row then work for another hour again

system is

ga-z77x-ud5h running f8 bios
i7 3770k never been clocked
stock cooler
16gig corsair vengance 1600
corsair enthusiast 750w psu
120 gig kingston ssd
2tb seagate baracuder

my graphis card is a quadro 4000
my mates one, gf 7600gt 256 meg nvidia

im stumped... i got the uptodate stable driver suggested by solidworks for the quadro, the 7600 i just stuck in without doing anything

and im supposed to be going away soon and taking this thing with me

the only things i can think of are some kinda crazy driver problem, but then why would it do it with the other card, or that my motherboard or psu has some serious problem with it

penny for your thoughts
 
yes it has on board graphics which work fine, i can get in the bios

tried it in all 3 pcie slots, same thing

not tried reinstalling windows yet but i guess thats the next step unless anyone can think of anything else
 
really, i would normally avoid the beta ones till they have been tested, there buggy

i might go to 14, but i dout its that, its not like its a new card, they have been out for ages

plus it does it with the other card as well that isnt a quadro

confused :(


and my ram is set to correct voltage
 
wazza300 said:
Betas are safe to use,could go latest final if you want,try with only 8gb of ram see if crashing stops,you might need more dram and qpi/vtt with 16gb around 1.08-1.1v qpi/vtt
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i tried it with 8 gig, i tried it with 4 gig, made no difference :(

ill flash to the latest final tomorrow, i doubt its the ram, nothing is clocked yet,

and if im honist i dont know what qpi/vtt stands for and hence means, and while i could find it on the bios i dont really like screwing with stuff before i understand it lol
 
i want to punch my computer to death... in the face

well... because **** are ******s,

they said dont bother posting any rma's till the 3rd jan cos there is no one here

and then the backlog will be 3 weeks after that, and no you cant have a refund even if you buy a new mobo right now


so i bought a new one from someone else instead cos i cant wait that long

and to my shame, it does the exact same thing


hence, im about to reinstall all my motherboard drivers, go to f14 on the bios then reinstall windows

not a happy bunny
 
you know that didnt even occur to me to be honist lol

and im assuming liklyhood of them both being faulty in the same way is to astronomical to be entertained

so im now left with 2x something i cant figure out how to fix

i could swap the new one for another board entirely, sabertooth or p... whatever delux

after spending a good amount time googleing all i have found is page after page of people complaining about this board and its crashy tendancys

which is anoying, cos as far as i can tell once its working its great :(
 
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well

wanting to do a one thing at a time, i updated the bios to f14 and then ran with no gpu

i though this was a waist of time having already tried 2 bios variants, but for the sake of it, its only quick..

it powered down twice while trying to reboot, at this point this is me, "*Fully star out swearing!* iv made it worse"

but... annoyingly, it was doing some windows update thing at the same time, which i forgot about, could have been that

it then run for about 3 hours ideling, on the net, playing vids, and opening the biggest solidworks file i have

about to reinstall windows but, in the fairness of testing i put my gpu back in

its now been almost 2 hours... no crashing

could i be so lucky (/stupid) that bios f4 and f8 both were buggy with gpus for some reason.... i haven't tried it with the other graphics card yet, but if she manages to stay on all night tonight.... i might have hit paydirt
 
i have a spare, but it hasn't got the right connector for the motherboard, i could just buy one but its getting silly now

and no, dont know many people who do this kinda thing, im normally the one with the spare bits for other people lol
 
well it just crashed having been on for less then 1 min :(

Idleman said:
The only other thing I can suggest at the moment, is maybe try another kettle lead and a different wall socket.
What are your Cpu temps , maybe monitor the temps.
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i might go out to some kinda ****y shop in ealing and try and buy a power supply, im in a rush lol, cpu tems are fine, an hour of prime and it hit 69 degrees, all on the stock cooler, core temp is showing 28 max 32 right now, and my gpu sits at about 50, which is normal for a quadro

Attu90 said:
Was this a new build ?, when you built it did you do a clean install of Windows or are you trying to use an old install of windows from another computer ?
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all new, components and install
 
Ps, it has also taking a liking to freee, with the most awfull noise coming out of my headphones that is like the ast half second of the biffy clyro song it was playing repeating at high speed

Its still going, I'm typing this on my phone
 
well....

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maplins now has 90... yes 90 bloody quid of my money, and i have a 750w xfx pro some crap thing... it was that or a 450w cit.. or a 1000w modular that cost 130 assing pounds lol

its been on for 10 mins, we shall see
 
RJC said:
One thing that has crossed my mind could the motherboard be shorting on the case!, one thing to try is run the system external to the case.
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pastymuncher said:
^I would do this next. Take it all apart and place the mobo on a piece of cardboard or similar and build it up outside the case.

Have you checked the CPU/GPU temps at all? Maybe try the graphics card in the other slot to rule out a dodgy slot being the cause.
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its held on with 9 screws on the back plate thing, all with spacer block things

this case is about 15 years old but i don think its shorting, would that make it crash only when there was a graphics card inserted?

ill give it a go anyway
 
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