My mate just bought a MAC
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You can't really say that around here as most people on here who own macs have moved on from PC's onto better pastures.
It's not a simple OS though...did you mean it's intuitive and easy to use GUI is simple? If so, you are correct. If you meant that actual core underlying architecture of the OS, then you are most definitely wrong.
Can windows do proper asymmetric multiprocessing yet? Is windows till using BIOS? Is it still using Flintstone era DOS under that pretty yet useless interface?
I do like Windows 7, don't get me wrong, i'm getting an OEM license when i can, it's just why don't microsoft just start again, from the ground up. Not just piling more stuff ontop of this inverted house of cards we call windows. That little, old, tired card at the bottom called DOS is showing it's age. Pull that out and it all comes falling down...
Also, software like Logic and Aperture are only available on the Mac and they are absolutely stunning! Logic especially. Also, what other video editing suite for the money can you get that is better than Final Cut Studio? Answer me that.
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What actually makes them any better than a pc? they don't have any specialized hardware for it?
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forgive my ignorance but is it possible that a mac works better and has less problems than the average pc simply because there is les hardware configurations that macs use and apple makes most of the software that people use on a mac themeselves? same reason macs dont get viruses = less people use them so hackers cant be bothered to write them.
The whole architecture of the OS is the main reason macs work better, have no viruses out in the wild and a plethora of other things.
Of course things like having a certain number of fixed hardwares help, take a look at games console specs and see what they can achieve, same case here.
Of course things like having a certain number of fixed hardwares help, take a look at games console specs and see what they can achieve, same case here.
That makes the OS easier to write; that's about it.
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Wrong.
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Nope, the Unix background makes it more secure, if nothing else because you are always running as a user, not an admin.
Also, if you want to bring up quantity in terms of appeal to hackers, you may want to consider exploits for IIS compared to Apache.
Reliability.
That is the major factor in business. Time is money. You just can't have a system crash on you while editing, be it movie, music or pictures. You need that reliability that that you can rely on.
Most music studios i have been in use macintoshs for that very reason.
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Windows being built upon DLL = House of Cards. As for the person who said that Mac's have hardly any viruses because people can't be bothered to write them = tosh.
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IE6...update it to IE8 for a start. And if more people get macs, you will be called out more.
With the OP, if he's using his mac for video editing and media editing and no games apart from WoW then good on him, but if he thinks it's more powerful than an equal priced PC.../Facepalm.
Also Macs DO have viruses, just not as many and that is MANILY due to a lower user base, although I know UNIX is more secure than windows.
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Snap.
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Its an overpriced Intel PC with a crap Graphics card running a different OS. How does that make it any better for video editing than a Windows PC bought for the same money?
His money though at the end of the day, can do what he likes with it, just saying personally I wouldn't have gone with a Mac. (I dont really like OSX though tbh.
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OSX is much slicker than any of the Windows OS's, and so needs a lot less hardware, to run a lot, lot faster.
[Cas];14888881 said:Didn't you know? Anyone that has a Mac sucks!
I'd temporarily forgotten this. Must be the Steve reality distortion field blocking it out.
/Goes looking for cheap plasticy Acer laptop that weights a lot, has crap battery life, an awful screen and keyboard.
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Ahh now that's a machine! It just works, virus free, never encounters errors. Absolutely marvelous piece of engineering.
I definitely see why they charge less for Windows products!
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[Cas];14888898 said:
Its not a whole lot slicker when I get my cack handed Windows ingrained mitts on it, when I'm used to using Windows since 3.0.
Everything on OSX just feels like its in the wrong place to me! Besides, I just know I'd get all huffy when there's something shiny out for Windows that I can't use on my Mac, if I bought one.
Ahh now that's a machine! It just works, virus free, never encounters errors. Absolutely marvelous piece of engineering.
Only retarded people manage to screw up Windows to the extent where its unusuable, and only idiots infest their own machine with more viruses than the village bike.
Unfortunately there's a lot of them about.
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I meant simple as in easy to use - I was describing it as a plus point
I personally prefer windows, but only because I'm used to it. And I wouldn't use windows for any kind of server.I also didn't say that Final Cut was beaten by other things - just that there are comparable products for PC.
I think my underlying points are: Macs are *not* bad but Macs *are* overpriced. I think that you could agree with that at least?
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That's true, 9 times out of 10 it's the end users fault for just clicking and accepting everything that pops up. Tards.
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Its slicker almost entirely down to the fact you're used to it. Nothing more nothing less, when will people realise that basic fact.
XP feels horribly slow to me these days just because I haven't used it for years, its that simple, when I used it daily everything else felt clunky and slow and unintuitive. Likewise Vista for ages so Windows 7 felt bizarre and wrong, but a couple months in Win 7 and it feels natural and Vista's already feeling completely wrong to me, in exactly the same way people complain about for instance, newer MS Office versions, its not they aren't better, or worse, people are used to the old one and the new one simply feels wrong.
Hardware wise, software wise, theres very little difference. To a certain degree Windows will always be a little bulkier due to the massive range of hardware supported which, frankly, is rather irritating purely due to how little use it would really get by most hardware, but max compatibility is key.
Stability is a non issue, the fact is most "enthusiasts" which would be almost anyone who actually builds their own comp rather than buy a complete one, tend to play around more than anyone else. A huge number of people on these foums overclock their own built computers, how many overclock their Macs, you can't compare stability when its YOUR CHOICE to disregard stability to play around and customise everything so much.
Even overclocked to the brink of death blue screens are incredibly rare, infact when I was at uni and didn't have time to be messing around with my comp so much so I wasn't changing drivers, just installing the odd game and playing I didn't have a crash at all, still overclocked and incredibly fast.
AS for those who constantly talk about, "well I fix PC's all the time, they break constantly, i never fix macs", well du'h, theres eleventy billion pc's out there being used by all manor of idiots, and theres 12 Mac's out there being used for often a much narrower scope of software with less issues. Yet as a comp geek amongst friends I've had to play around with software and fix multiple things over the years, they do fail, they aren't infalable and they aren't any more stable than a properly built quality computer.
AS for the fanboys, the OP really doesn't show any fanboyism to computers, everything you assumed he meant to say, he didn't, its really a case of Mac fanboys reading into it how they wanted. He merely said £1400 for a mac to play WoW is beyond absurd, the only thing more absurd is accusing him of being a fanboy for stating something so obviously true, not least because he could have spunked £600 on a crappy Mac just for WoW.
Its also worth noting the Anandtech article on how massively poorly Safari turned out to be in terms of optimisation and power usage/battery life compared to basically all other browsers, on a decent netbook you'll end up with what was it, 70-80% higher battery life using the same pages in IE over Safari, style over substance in Mac software from what I can see.
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