My other Golf Project!

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I cant believe I'm doing this again!

I have a new project! Friend of mine asked a garage to carry out a 1.8 20V conversion on his mk3 golf 3.5 years ago. After lots of excuses, little progress and seeing mine being finished in 3 months he asked me to complete his project!

We towed her here earlier:

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Basically engine is fitted, but won't start, wiring looks a nightmare at the moment.

Plan is to inspect her tomorrow to see whats been done and take it from there.

This project will not be moving at the same pace as the original Golf Project thread due to lack of deadlines and me wanting a social life! :D
 
Some bits I've found that need correcting so far:

Original engine wiring still in place

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Pipework fouling

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Lots of random wires about

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WTF have I done :D
 
Thanks everyone! Just to repeat this one will be moving at a much slower pace so dont get hooked! ;)

Car is now in the garage and being stripped down, the wiring is erm interesting!

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Power supply to the DTA ECU!!!!!

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I have no idea what's going on here

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Engine is not sitting right, I suspect the incorrect engine mounts have been used

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Sorting this one out is going to be worse than the mk2, the to do list is getting bigger and bigger!
 
Engine is now out:

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I dont think this is the right bracket somehow

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Empty engine bay

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Tomorrow I'm going to go through all the wiring to see what can be removed. Also need to read the DTA manual to work out what does what.
 
Quick update:

DTA ECU wiring now removed so I can trace wire by wire where everything needs to go, my major concern at the moment is that I cant find anything marked for boost control!

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Corrrect brackets fitted to gearbox, much better than the one previously fitted

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Few bits to order over the next few days, planning to put the engine back in over the weekend then a week of wiring hell!
 
Got some more done yesterday:

Car was pushed out of the garage and the engine bay given a quick jetwash

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Prep work done on chassis leg and inner wing prior to painting

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Lots of bits that arent required were removed from the engine, MAP sensor now mounted on the engine itself (just to the right of the dipstick) not the bulkhead to eliminate a long vac hose run. Correct front engine mount also fitted.

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Im now in the process of removing the old engine wiring loom from the car, not as easy in a mk3 golf due to it being combined with the engine bay loom.

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After shot of painted wing

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Mk3 2.0 16V rear engine mount bracket fitted

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Tony (the owner) did all the bodywork, I've just been dealing with wires and engines!
 
tbz_ck said:
Is this one gonna get a full respray like yours did?

No! Just an engine install, this one is going to be sold straight after. It was started 3.5 years ago and he has a rather nice S3 now so doesnt need another car with a 20V turbo engine!
 
tbz_ck said:
Whats with the dodgy rear alloys

They are the standard ones!

Front ones were fitted to give a tiny bit more ground clearance to get it up the bumpy road up to the garage. The coilovers platform adjusters are seized solid.
 
tbz_ck said:
Progress on this one?

:o :o

Not much done for a few weeks, work has been silly busy, lots of stag weekends and weddings to attend and I've found a new job that I'm starting soon!

Some work will be done on it next week, as I need to put the other Golf in the garage to fit a gearbox prior to the second ring trip in September! I need some pressure to get my arse into gear :D
 
Some more bits and bobs done over the weekend:

Subframe given a coat of paint

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Engine back in

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Two problems found

Lack of clearance by master cylinder

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Exhaust downpipe used touches the steering UJ boot

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Engine will have to come out to fit a custom downpipe and for the master cylinder to be adjusted.

Suspension wasn't in a good state after being standing for 3+ years, was coated in oil and left until next weekend.

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New wishbones on order for next weekend.
 
Well this one needs a right big kick up the arse to get it moving so.....

Lopez and me are going to have a little race to see who finishes their project first.

Deadline is set for January the 4th for a MOT.

May the fastest spanner monkey win!
 
Out of interest how much can one of these engines be had for? Been toying with the idea of something for a while and undecided as to which would be easier/best/cheaper :p

Turboing an original non turbo engine, so having to replace a lot of the internals and the annoyance of it being a one off, but the fact you don't have to sorry about anything fitting.

Or dropping in an existing turbo lump but with all the hassle of getting it to fit, plus the cost of a whole engine and ancilleries.

First engine I purchased was £700 off ebay and knackered!
Second with a warranty was about £850 IIRC
The one for this one with a gearbox and had only done 5k miles was about £1400 I think
 
What a day, I have never coem across so many seized bits on one car before, I had to heat up most of the bolts we removed today.

Engine is out again....

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Suspension, wishbones, track rod ends removed

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To get the downpipe out you need to drop the subframe

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Since the subframe was out, we decided to give it a proper clean

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We weren't happy with the finish so we decided to take it to get powder coated during the week along with all these other bits

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Steering rack removed from subframe and cleaned

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Coilovers did free up a bit, but the adjusters are still a little tight so more soaking with oil required

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Hubs were stripped down after removal, the caliper carrier and disk retaining bolts were ridiciously tight

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The to do list for the next two weeks:

  • Powder coat subframe etc
  • Free up coilovers
  • New brake lines
  • Paint hubs, drive shafts, steering rack etc etc
  • Fit new bottom arms, bottom ball joints, suspension etc
  • Order new bolts for everything removed today
  • Order new downpipe
  • ECU wiring
  • Order more gas for all the other seized bolts we are going to encounter!

Good day I think :D

All yours Mr Lopez!
 
Nice spending someone elses money isn't it?

That loom looks er... interesting!

Yes it is :D

Loom will be fine, I have no worries at all about getting that back and working!

Matt82 said:
a smaller front engine mount brings the engine forward for a better fit in mk2 conversions

I had no issues at all with space doing this in my mk2, once we get the correct downpipe and take a few mm from the unused master cylinder port it will be fine.
 
Lunchtime update:

Bits back from the powder coaters

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Tony painted the steering rack during the week, the finish is :cool:

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Under the front arches given a coat of under body sealant

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Front subframe started to be built up

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These need a coat or two of paint!

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New brake lines made and fitted

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Bottom arms etc to be fitted this afternoon, hubs need to be cleaned and painted ready for assembly tomorrow.
 
Thanks :)

More done this afternoon

Master cylinder attacked with a grinder and painted for a bit more space

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Wiring started to be routed to where it should be

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ish.....

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Header tank wiring relocated from passenger to drivers side

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Calipers and carriers painted

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One hub stripped down and painted

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Plans for tomorrow are to route all the wiring as it should be (a friend is coming over with his Mk3 GTI so we can compare), finishing painting all the bits and hopefully put the engine in place.
 
hey dude, dont happen to have any springs for a mk3 golf gti kicking around do ya?

Good job with the work too!

No sorry, they were binned a long time ago.

Wiring coming along slowly here today, painting coming along nicely. Will update with some pics tonight. Nothing exciting to see now really!

Anyone got any decent wiring diagrams for a mk3 golf? :o
 
What an afternoon, coilovers were a PITA!

The coilover de seizing station, lots of heat a big hammer and some choice swear words lead from this:

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To this

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All covered in some deox gel to hopefully clean them up

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Springs off and being sent for powder coating this week

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Then the lovely wiring, some bits sorted out. I need to sit down now and see what parts from the old VW loom I need/can use, and what needs doing from scratch.

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I think thats going to be my new home for the next few weekends......

Driveshafts cleaned and painted, looking much better now

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Wiring took far more time than I thought today, so engine not going to be put in place until it's sorted.
 
Slaking with updates, work done last weekend and some today:

Last weekend

Downpipe has arrived

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Coilovers looking a bit better

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Springs back from powder coaters and some new bump stops

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New CV boot fiitted to diveshaft

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Coilovers given first coat of paint

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Today saw the car sit on the floor for the first time in a while.

Coilovers assembled and ready to fit

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Hubs, calipers and suspension in place (Forgot to take a pic before the wheel went on!)

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With the front down we could start on the back suspension

We found this

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That's going to be fun to get unseized!

These calipers were new when it first went in for the converison 3 years ago!

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Overhaul of the rear suspension and beam tomorrow
 
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