My Prelude Project Thread

merlin said:
I'm stunned, now that's some serious devotion.

Will it be Cat D though?
I can't see why - the insurance company were never involved with my side of the accident. I'm paying for all the repairs straight out of my pocket, as i'm only TPFT and the accident was (in terms of the insurance company) 100% my fault, and they have paid for the 3rd party's damages, and not a single penny towards mine. However, the main reason I didn't post this up before is that I know exactly what this forum is like when someone posts details of an accident, and I couldn't be bothered at the time to argue with the masses who feel they can determine the ins-and-outs of an accident from a couple of pictures!
 
Another update for you.

Went over to the bodyshop this morning, and matey who's doing the front lip actually had something to show me!!!

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That is almost as close to the Wings West RS lip as you could probably get just making it up from pictures, so I'm now happy with that, so it will be made up in the next week or so, so I should have the completed bumper hopefully by next weekend.

While I was there, I picked up the rest of the bits that had been painted - sunroof, door handles, mirrors, sideskirts, rear bumper, boot lid, rear numberplate surround, rear spoiler, and then started to fit them.

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I also hooked up the rear lights, and discovered they've changed something between the pre- and post-facelift rear lights, so what was the reverse wire on the post-facelift is brake on the pre-facelift, so basically I've got no reverse on one side, the brake light comes on instead lol!

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Also started to wire in the alarm etc too, which doesn't provide much pictorial progress!
 
Gibbo said:
There is one thing you could consider now your putting it back together, do you really need to put everything back in? Could do yourself a bit of weight saving. ;)
I'm not really too fussed - it's my daily driver, and I was always happy with the way it performed - I'd rather keep it as the comfortable yet capable cruiser it was, than keep it stripped and lose the comfort!

GinG said:
What alloys are you going for? Will you be using the multi spoke? Also will you be giving the car a lower stance?
I'm keeping the multispokes that were on there, but I'm going to refurbish them in a gunmetal colour, and it will probably already struggle to get onto the ramp in my dad's garage, and catch curbs as it is (especially with the new front lip), so not sure about lowering it, plus I don't have the money right at the moment to change either wheels or suspension! ;)
 
Spent a couple of days working on it at the end of last week, and have done the following:

All wiring sorted (had a fun issue with the SRS/main loom connections - they changed them between pre- and post-facelift, so the 8 pin plug on the facelift steering wheel/SRS loom didn't fit into the 4 pin connector on the pre-facelift loom!)
Alarm fully installed
Remote boot release installed
90% of interior in, just driver's door to finish building up
Front & Rear lights completed and glued back together
New windscreen installed
Rear window & quarter glass removed from donor, and cleaned up ready for tinting
Box sections in chassis cavity waxed
Wheels painted in gunmetal colour


Things still to do:

Rear glass (tinting and installation - tinting is done on Tue/Wed, installed Thu)
Front seats installed (leaving out until windows are in to aid their installation)
Front bumper (coming back from bodyshop this week)
Driver's door mirror, handle, and door card (mirror/handle in bodyshop)
Rrear fog light (connect power & earth cable)
Rear numberplate made up and installed
Tyres put back onto wheels (2 new ones being delivered this week)
Brake calipers (one of the rears is sticking - if I have time will clean up & paint all, and if so fit braided hoses if they're delivered)
Underseal wheel arches/undertray etc)
Wheel arch trims (installed once underseal has dried)
Insurance (certificate is in post)
MOT (once a lot of the above is completed)
Tax (once MOT'd)


Only a small list, but I'm hoping it'll be doable - got Friday off work so going to be working Thu night, all day Friday, and Friday evening if needed!


Oh, best end this long post with some pics!


Windows out and ready for tint
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Wheels painted - note where the paint reacted to the primer
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Headlights fitted
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And a quick vid of them in action:
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And finally, rear indicators and remote boot release:
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Garry
 
W00t! More goodies!

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These are to replace the two "Marangoni" things that were on there before, one of which had developed a bulge in the sidewall!


Garry
 
Hi,

I bought my Prelude 25 months ago with 157k miles on the clock - and out of all that I've driven since - it's still the best one I've driven! (Hence why I decided to rebuild it rather than change it for another, or something else!)

As for the 4th gen (the shape of mine), the UKDM ones are 185bhp, and the JDM ones are "197"bhp. The 197 is in quotation marks because that is what it was rated at on 100ron fuel that they use in Japan. The UK is rated on 95ron! ;) Put even 97/98 ron in a JDM and you're looking at more like 194. The main difference in the power output between the two is that the JDM has a higher compression ratio (due to their increased knock-resistance of the 100ron fuel), and addition of a knock sensor.

Other main differences between UKDM and JDM are that the JDM has climate control (rather than just manually controlled air conditioning in the UKDM), and everything else was an option on the JDM! All UKDM VTECs have 4WS & sunroof, but it were options on the JDM. The JDM also had an optional LSD gearbox, which was never offered in the UK.

As for the 5th gen (the newer, squarer shape), the UKDM was 185bhp until 2000, when all became 197bhp (as identified by a red rocker cover - though some have resprayed theirs red! ;)). I believe all were 4WS, apart from the Type-S, which is the top-of-the-range 5th gen, which has ATTS (rather than LSD, which wasn't an option on any 5th gen) and ~220bhp!

For more information on any Preludes, check out PreludeUK :)


Garry
 
Just heard from my dad, everything's been undersealed, most of the plastic arch liners are back in, and the windows have been taken away to be tinted (too much dust in dad's garage for them to be done there), and will be back tomorrow :)

STILL not got my front lip made, so I'll either be on a standard bumper, or will have that other one as posted a few weeks back. :(

I've also just sprayed up the roof trims (that sit in the channel either side of the roof), as the old ones were a bit worse for wear - can't put anything half-assed back onto the car ;)

Am going over to my dad's straight after work tomorrow to do as much as possible - might not get a chance to update until Friday evening...! Keep your fingers crossed for me! ;)


Garry
 
Quick update before I dive into bed for an early start tomorrow!


I now have a full compliment of glass! :D And, the rear windows are now tinted - something I'd been wanting to do since I got the car!

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Everything's been undersealed, and wheel arch liners/plastic undertrays are back on (although I may have said that in my last update, I can't remember!)

I've also started cleaning up my brake callipers for painting, as I need to definitely swap the nearside rear tomorrow. Muppet here left my Goodridge braided brake lines at home, so I can't fit them tomorrow :(

I do have 2 tyres on the rear wheels, and they're back on the car (although they're coming off to do the callipers again).

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Yes, I'm aware it's sitting high there, and I can fit a family of immigrants under there - but the car's only just been lowered back on the wheels - the suspension's not moved and settled yet!


Still got quite a few things to do tomorrow, so hopefully my next update will be more substantial! ;)


Garry
 
I guess I'd better do a proper update, rather than my quite brief and cryptic post of Friday night!


Basically, the Prelude is back on the road!

However, that's not to say I didn't have some drama!

On Friday morning I got up early, and took the wheels & Toyo tyres to my dad's work, so the tyres could be fitted, and the wheels balanced.

I also had to go and pick up my front bumper, driver's wing mirror and driver's door handle from the bodyshop. Thankfully before I did this I checked the new insurance certificate for the Prelude (I'd done a change-of-car), and they had started the insurance on the Prelude from 00:01 on the Friday - rather than midday when I'd asked. They also wouldn't provide me any overlap between the two cars, without charging me £43 for the privilege of a week's overlap, hence why I asked for 12pm - so it gave me the morning to run around and pick up things like the bumper! Luckily I have Drive Other Cars cover - so I was able to borrow my dad's Shogun (which has wasn't too pleased about, but could hardly deny me!) to go and pick them up, and get a numberplate and load-balance resistor for the LED indicators, to stop them flashing too fast!

When I got back from the bodyshop with the bumper (which they carried out to and put in the Shogun), I took it out of the boot - but it was a bit light - they hadn't given me the metal support bar - which meant another 40 minute round-trip to get it.

Luckily, JohnnyB from PreludeUK then turned up to lend a hand, as he'd booked Friday morning off work in case he needed it to do his clutch & flywheel, but he didn't, so he decided to give me a hand instead :) As soon as he turned up, I turned him straight back around and he went to collect the bumper bar, and lunch! ;) He returned a little bit later, and then helped by attaching the front bumper to the car, cutting out my driver's door card for the puddle light, taping up the rest of the plastic in the doors, and refitting the door card. There were also other little odds and sods he did such as cleaning my leather seats (where they'd been sat in the garage for 7 months they'd got various paint overspray and dust all over them), and swapping the seat belt clips from the donor car's seats to mine, and then fitting the seats, passing me tools etc. All little bits that would have taken me an extra few hours to do, and would have probably made me too late for the MOT!! So, an extra special thanks to JohnnyB, as without his help on the Friday I wouldn't have been finished in time.


As I mentioned before, I had a sticky brake caliper on the nearside rear, so this needed to come off. However, one of the bolts that held the handbrake cable to the caliper had seized up, and my attempts to remove it just ended up rounding the head of the bolt. So, I decided I'd just take the whole caliper and handbrake cable off, and use the cable from the donor. So, I did. I removed everything from both cars, poked the cable from the donor through into the inside of mine, ran it back to the rear wheel and attached the new caliper & handbrake cable, and then built up the rear end again. I then went inside the car to hook the cable to the handbrake lever. Only I failed to do so - because the cable was 4" too short. Oh dear...! The pre-facelift donor car has the handbrake further back than my facelift car... So, I had to remove the donor's handbrake cable again, then try to remove the bolt from the original caliper/cable. A combination of brute force with a slightly smaller impact socket, a hammer, and a bit of heat from a blow-torch, and my dad managed to get the bolt out, and the cable was reinstalled to the car! Not something I really wanted, as it took me lots of extra time in order to mess around with all this!

I also had to refit my cat, as I'd previously put a de-cat pipe in it's place.

My BMC CDA is rather larger than the ones other Prelude owners have, and they struggled to fit theirs, so I had to bodge my old eBay-special filter onto my OEM intake pipe - a little duck tape came in very handy then! Hopefully I can figure out some way of fitting my BMC CDA and improve the intake filter to one of the best available for a Prelude!


Once all the little bits were done, I was able to take it down for it's MOT. The emissions test was a little nerve-racking - the cat hadn't been used for nearly a year so took some time for it to warm up and decide to do what it's supposed to do, but it did come down. It did unfortunately fail it's MOT! The offside headlight aim was too high, and the nearside was aimed too high and too far to the right. This was fixed on site, aim re-tested and an MOT pass was issued!


JohnnyB then took me off to the nearest Post Office to get tax. I however was a muppet and forgot to get my V5C out of my bag, so we had to go back to my dad's to get it. Second time lucky, I managed to produce all the required documentation, and the road tax was purchased. Another £180 to line Gordon Brown's pockets (well, either him, or whoever is taking over his old job now he's about to become Prime Minister...!)


Once I'd got back, I started to re-fit some more of the interior trim, but it was then soon time to leave so I could get to my girlfriend's for us to start making our move towards Japshow


I put the car on the PreludeUK stand, and spent most of the weekend showing people my lights! The members of PreludeUK voted mine as runner-up in the Best Modified Overall and Best In Show categories - greatly appreciated awards, as it was voted by over 30 Prelude owners and enthusiasts!


Now, some piccies that I took of it on Friday, and some of my lights from the weekend


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I knew people would comment on the rear spoiler, which is why I've so far deliberately refrained from posting pictures of it here...

The reason being, is that it looks totally different in pictures than it does in person. Everyone who has seen both say it looks different, and most on PreludeUK at the weekend actually said it suited it - despite ridiculing someone else who had a very similar spoiler on a car that didn't have the rest of the modifications, and they are often the first to comment if they don't like something.

So, before saying anything else - wait until you see it in person (I'll try to get along to the next MM or RR) :)

Of course most of you won't, and will still comment on it, and I will openly admit it doesn't always look as good in pictures, even I've looked at some of the pictures and said to myself "hrm, that doesn't look like that in real life", and started debating it - but once I see it on the car again in front of me, I realise it's just the pictures! ;)


Oh, and as for lowering it - it only just got onto the ramp in my dad's garage, and the front lip was nearly touching the ground when it was on the brake tester at the MOT station - and I can't afford new suspension at the moment, so it'll be waiting! ;)


Garry
Garry
 
Spent Saturday sorting out a few little issues and putting a few little odds and sods in.

Fitted the rear "Prelude" light, and put my GPS receiver in it too (hopefully will be a good place to pick up a good signal!), put the "4th pedal"/footrest in, a few more interior trim bits.

I also had an ABS/TCS error, which was being identified as a 4-1 - front-right wheel sensor. So, I changed this with the one from the donor, which sorted out the 4-1. I'm still however getting a 1 error from the ABS - which is the pump over-running, running for 20 seconds when starting up - could be that it needs to be bled, as it had been taken out of the car. Need the special T-piece tool to do that I thinks!

I also attempted to fit my BMC CDA, as my ebay special which I'd duck-taped to the OEM inlet pipe kept unsticking itself, and I was running without a proper air filter :oops:

Now my BMC CDA is a lot larger than others I've seen squeezed into Preludes - and I struggled to find a way to fit it previously.

However, with a rather large shoe-horn, I finally managed to squeeze it in, and connect it up!

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I had to move the ABS connector bracket out of the way, and the filter is almost touching the strut brace, gearbox mount, HT leads and inner wing!

I'm quite surprised at how much difference to the noise the BMC makes - it has quietened it down a lot at idle and under little load, but it's still got a nice deep rumble under load, like the ebay-special did :) It should make it much nicer to drive on motorways now (which is ~60% of my driving anyway!). Not sure if it's made any difference to power - but it does still pull nicely, and I think it might even be smoother - even though I've not yet done a proper cold air feed


Garry
 
I've not really done anything else mechanical to the car, it's been working OK so far (other than a little ABS issue, but it's nothing that's sortable yet!)

So, this week I've been concentrating on putting my CarPC back in.

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Library picture of the controller board mounted

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Top screen, and fuel/temp gauges moved to the right

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Tidy cables!! This was a complete mess before!

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Both screens in!

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Cup holder? What's that doing in a photo here?

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Ohh, I see - an easy-to-get-to USB hub, in case bluetooth, touchscreen or anything else dies!

This lot isn't really anything new, but I thought I'd put it here for completeness.

Right - boot build!

I decided to do something different to what I did before.

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Basic frame

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Building it up a bit more

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Middle panel lifts up

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And spare wheel still accessible underneath

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PC mounted to board

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And board reattached to boot. PC lives underneath, and sits in the spare wheel well.


PC consists of an Epox 8RGMI motherboard, AMD Athlon XP1700+ CPU, 256mb DDR, 300gb 3.5" hard drive, and an Opus 150W in-car PSU, which regulates the voltage, and provides an automated startup/shutdown controller :)

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Amp mounted next to 4WS computer (leaving ski hatch usable for those slightly longer items!)


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Got the rear panel fixed, and the middle panel is now hinged


That's it so far - need to find somewhere/how to attach the hard drive, power supply, and run the cables! I also need to see how hot it gets, and as to whether and where I might need some fans!


Garry

(PS - if you want decent cordless power tools, check out the Ryobi One+ range - one battery fits all, and they do loads of different tools - drills, right-angle drill, circular saw, jigsaw, caulking gun, nail/staple gun and more - and most importantly, one battery fits any of them! I've done all of this today with a single battery in all the tools I've used!)
 
Yeah, the spare wheel has a bolt that holds it down to the floor - it's just not in the piccies because I kept having the wheel in and out whilst trialling the fitting of things! ;)
 
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