My view on twitchers and let's play, what's yours?

How so? Most of them just get mods to control the haters in chat, Kripparian one of the most succesful streamers isn't sociable at all really and gets up to 25k viewers sometimes. You don't really need to care about viewer count when you get random donations that easily surpass the average minimum wage for most people even the non popular streamers get the odd £400 here and there.

It's far from difficult unless you make it difficult by caring about jealous haters.

What I would agree on is that it must be a grind after a while and make you pretty much braindead, if the whole thing comes crashing down what are you gonna tell employers you've been doing for the past 5 years? Sat and streamed WoW 10 hours a day.... lol
 
The odd "£400" ? Doubt many of the "non popular streamers" experience many of that.

I know a few partnered streamers that had to go back to full time work just for the stable income. Most recent one being cyanideEpic who has many a thousand of followers and lots of subs. Its just not stable enough for many. Not to mention the time needed to stream.

Also if you are partnered you get half the sub fee,half goes to twitch.

Would it be an ok living? Yes.

But its much harder to do than people think, especially now there is the in built console streamers.
 
Depends what games you watch I guess, streamerhouse are pretty low down in the viewer count for diablo 3 sometimes as low as 100 viewers yet they receive donations all the time and that has to be split between 3 or 4 of them.

I'd imagine games like DayZ etc have different audiences and people aren't so generous.
 
You somewhat have to try to viral it yourself. Just sitting there, expecting to get views from absolutely nothing it's going to get you anywhere. Post it on here, another online forums, image boards, etc. At least one person will pick it up and have a gander, and that might spur on the next person, and repeat the process. It's really not that hard, I used to had a couple of videos (don't have them anymore 'cause I shut down my channels as I always used to get CC) that I could easily get 1,000+ views on in a couple of days, or even hours, which is not bad at all considering I used upload to channels which had no previous videos on them. The content has to be current also. Most of my views came from when I did short, "funny" clips on the BF4 beta and JC2MP beta. It's really easy when you think about it, you have the entire internet at your disposal, put a bit of effort into it and surely at least one person will look at it.
 
Just getting views or some people in doesn't mean they will stay. It also depends what you want out of it. Its not as easy to get partnered as it was. Its not just something you can sit down and be an instant success on.

I know a popular Isaac streamer who has around 100 concurrent viewers per stream and he's had 300 in Aussie bucks over the last year.

It all comes down to what you want out of it. In my opinion its all about being really entertaining or really good, or even both. Then putting the hours in.

Yes you have the internet at your disposal but if you are streaming the BF4 campaign, will many really want to watch? Even the MP - there are hundreds of bf4 streamers across xb1, pc and PS4 now.

First aim should be building up a small community of viewers and regulars, then try build it up from there.
 
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it isnt easy to become popular.

any person can have a one hit video. that is possible but.. to do it week in week out is not easy.if you relying on income from your videos you cant fail.

many people commenting obviously don't know or have any ideas on the actual inner workings of streaming to this degree or youtube .


if its so easy to do it many would do it for a living . it isn't easy said. many do it casual for fun but doing it for a living is same as a job and many dont do this.


networking, playing the games to get the right shots or gameplay isn't the same as playing it normal. your gameplay has to be the best for that subject has to be edited right.

so pewdiepie for eg maybe does one video a week it will probably take 20-40hrs of playing to get the footage. then he has to edit it which if complicated can take as long as playing. so there you have 60hrs minimum before you even start with uploading tags networking side.

also you don't just roll into being popular it takes along time of hard effort to get to the inner circles or places you need to earn proper money.

so no it isn't easy its a job.
 
No, the reason most people don't do it is much like anything in life, they don't believe they'll do well so don't bother, or don't have the time or have "real world" commitments. There's not a great deal of people who can afford to risk quitting their job or have the time to stream 8+ hours a day. There's thousands out there who'd be good at it if given the chance but they'll never know because they won't try or can't.

I'm not taking anything away from the ones who are successful, good on them for going for it, but it definitely isn't a hard job compared to manual labour or something that really challenges your mind. It's about on par with your average 9-5 job where you browse the internet and do some work occasionally.

Youtube like I said earlier is different, that's definitely more challenging to be successful at.
 
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so pewdiepie for eg maybe does one video a week it will probably take 20-40hrs of playing to get the footage. then he has to edit it which if complicated can take as long as playing. so there you have 60hrs minimum before you even start with uploading tags networking side.
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So much agree there. I get probably 1h worth of footage of which I will use 4-5mins which takes me around 3-4 hours to edit and get right and then render and upload.
 
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Don't some of these streamers earn millions per year from this?
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Well a sub is like £5 a month, so £2.50 will go to the streamer, ducksauce I would say is a successful streamer, and last time I checked he had 2.5k subs, which forgive my maths as I'm doing this in my head, is around £6250 per month, plus ad revenue, plus random donations, I'd say around £10k per month?

Maybe there is more successful people, but he is pretty popular, so I don't think many will be above him, apart from girls with their **** hanging out getting £1k+ donations, I think even still they will be a long way off of millions a year.

YouTube however is a whole different kettle of fish, they probably earn more, but everyone has a different amount they get per view, so it's impossible to say, but a professional accountant (or something to that effect) did analyse how much they thought pewdiepie would earn in 1 year, you should be able to find it on Google for a figure, but even people like cynicalbrit earns enough to hire people to work for him full time, so that gives an indication of how much you can earn potentially there.
 
where did you pull them figures from :p

a youtuber gets 60p per 1000 views. 1,000,000 views = 600 quid. remember that's if the video gets monetized!!!! sometimes google wont monetize it and you have to have the rights to do so for every game !

then if they partnered they have to split that with partner . so not all of that is theirs.

so you way off actual figures.

when you work that out you need to hit 1 million views per video per week to get a decent wage then you realize how many really do that is a very small minority.

pewdiepie did 4 million pounds last yr. how much he received maybe half. depends on his partner and deal. obviously he has other offer deals with other people promotions.

that's why it makes me laugh when people say he does nothing. he obviously is very good at what he does and it isn't lucky to get that many views every week in out every video.
 
I did no figures to do with YouTube, so I don't understand why you're comparing them to YouTube figures, I even said I don't know what the YouTube figures would be.
 
I've considered doing a youtube channel for a while (never really been into streaming, but it's a possibility).

I did stand up comedy for almost 4 years and a lot of improvisation so dare say I could entertain people if I tried. My thought was to concurrently do a kind of 'zero to hero' documentary alongside it, about going from not having a channel to trying to achieve some sort of youtube fame and following, behind-the-scenes style. I wonder if it would work, but in my head it would be a good viral tool :p
 
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so pewdiepie for eg maybe does one video a week it will probably take 20-40hrs of playing to get the footage. then he has to edit it which if complicated can take as long as playing. so there you have 60hrs minimum before you even start with uploading tags networking side.
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I'd have thought a big name like him would have other people editing his videos.
 
I used to stream SCII on twitch, but only because I was quite decent about it. Difference is, I can't talk and play so just had a nice overlay, with music in the background :D
 
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