*****My WOT4 MK2 Nitro RC Plane Assembly Log****

In that case don't even attempt to take it up until you have had some practice on a slow flying fixed wing aircraft.

Seriously, it will end with heart break.

Not sure why you have gone straight to a nitro based RC aircraft.

Research and invest with battery powered aircraft. They are a lot less hassle and require little to no maintenance. They can be very light weight allowing them to fly very slowly which is ideal as a trainer aircraft. Yet on the other end of the scale they can near enough match the speeds of nitro powered aircraft if needed.

I have two GWS-Slow Sticks and they are the perfect trainer. I have been flying for 5 years and the Slow Stick is still wonderful to fly.


That nitro will mostly likely eat you alive and will give you a very bad feeling in your stomach, especially because you have been working on this aircraft for so long.
 
Nothing wrong with going nitro first, just as long as you get some training :)

Before this electric lark was common-place, everyone (pretty much) learned on IC under the buddy system, or with someone to grab the controls when needed :D
 
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Malt_Vinegar said:
Nothing wrong with going nitro first, just as long as you get some training :)
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I think that was my main point.

With a slow flying aircraft the risk of a mishap is greatly reduced due to the slow flying characteristics and so a new flyer is far less likely to find them self in a unrecoverable stall situation. With a slow flying aircraft the odds are stacked in your favour, and you can train yourself without the aid of anyone around you, like what I did.

You have spent months building up this aircraft and I hope you don't go out alone, as it will most likely end badly. There is nothing worse than spending a lot of time on a build for it to end badly especially when the crash was due to pilot error.

I agree with you Malt_Vinegar about joining a club, do this DJMK4 and buddy up with someone to get some flying time.

If you aren't keen on that then invest in a slow flying Ready To Fly electric package.
 
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The Wot4 is a great beginner plane if you have a bit of training / particularly if you are planning on club flying.

Personally I started with a slow stick and sim and then countless scratch built electrics and recently some electric balsa (requiring construction rather than assembly ;)) and lots of helis. I'm perfectly happy with electric and park sized planes and love being able to fly in large open spaces rather than having to go to a club to be watched over by a bunch of sandal wearing octogenarian bores. The Wot4 gets amazing reviews as a trainer though but I agree it would be a massive mistake to just go out and fly this. Buy yourself a slowstick for £30 and learn to fly while you complete the build.
 
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I have tried to tell him this. Told him JOIN the BMFA, go to a club where people fly. Who know what there doing. Christ I have been flying some 8 years now planes and helicopters, posted some of my 'hanger' in one thread on here a year or so ago.

You cant just start a sodding glow engine in a park and think you can fly it. What if you loose signal and it crashes into someones house, or a school, etc etc. Or if it isnt set up correctly. If you think it's a toy. Stick your finger in the prop when the engine is on idle!

You may have too much throws on control surfaces. Your hinges may not be secure enough. Your control rods may bind.

You need to range check, check no interference. What if you have set the centre of gravity up wrong.

What if the fuel clunk gets stuck, what if you dead stick ?

How do you plan on landing it when all controls are reversed with it flying towards you, flying into wind for the landing. Where is the stall point?

I could go on, but I get sick and tired of people thinking they can go out and spend a couple of hundred pounds on a model aircraft because they passed a flying club and thought it looked fun.

The amount of people we get visiting at our field who have the same idea and then you look at the model they have brough and assembled which turns out to be dangerous, not set up right, unsafe is virtually every one. But with experiance you see this. You can sort it and then take them out either on a buddy system or with someone experianced enough to grab the control if something goes wrong.

But I have never ever seen a 'new' flyer maiden his new toy. Whats the point. are you 110% sure you can handle it all if something goes wrong?

You need to join the BMFA so you fly in approved areas, have liability insurance.

But you dont listen. This will end in a bag of balsa.

As for the cowl, chuck it in a bin and dont bother with it.
 
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The Wot4 is a great beginner plane if you have a bit of training / particularly if you are planning on club flying.

go to a club to be watched over by a bunch of sandal wearing octogenarian bores. The Wot4 gets amazing reviews as a trainer though but I agree it would be a massive mistake to just go out and fly this. Buy yourself a slowstick for £30 and learn to fly while you complete the build.
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Yes we are all like that. All in breds!
:rolleyes:

But the Wot4, and most of Chris Foss's models are excellent planes. Especially the Acro Wot
 
Magic_x_uk said:
I have tried to tell him this. Told him JOIN the BMFA, go to a club where people fly. Who know what there doing. Christ I have been flying some 8 years now planes and helicopters, posted some of my 'hanger' in one thread on here a year or so ago.

You cant just start a sodding glow engine in a park and think you can fly it. What if you loose signal and it crashes into someones house, or a school, etc etc. Or if it isnt set up correctly. If you think it's a toy. Stick your finger in the prop when the engine is on idle!

You may have too much throws on control surfaces. Your hinges may not be secure enough. Your control rods may bind.

You need to range check, check no interference. What if you have set the centre of gravity up wrong.

What if the fuel clunk gets stuck, what if you dead stick ?

How do you plan on landing it when all controls are reversed with it flying towards you, flying into wind for the landing. Where is the stall point?

I could go on, but I get sick and tired of people thinking they can go out and spend a couple of hundred pounds on a model aircraft because they passed a flying club and thought it looked fun.

The amount of people we get visiting at our field who have the same idea and then you look at the model they have brough and assembled which turns out to be dangerous, not set up right, unsafe is virtually every one. But with experiance you see this. You can sort it and then take them out either on a buddy system or with someone experianced enough to grab the control if something goes wrong.

But I have never ever seen a 'new' flyer maiden his new toy. Whats the point. are you 110% sure you can handle it all if something goes wrong?

You need to join the BMFA so you fly in approved areas, have liability insurance.

But you dont listen. This will end in a bag of balsa.

As for the cowl, chuck it in a bin and dont bother with it.
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Whats with the rant ??

I already know im getting insurance, and getting some "lessons" at a club.

However once I learn how to fly and get to grips with everything, I wont be staying at the club as its simply not my scene, where I live there is a lot and I mean a lot of land with nothing round for miles, no people, no houses, no animals, just fields and land
 
It isnt rant. Just trying to save you from coming home with a bag of balsa. I have no idea if you are 12 or 50.

I just hate the thought of you not being prepared.

SIMS are good, they help teach but only to a certain level.

Nothing prepares you for the fun of the real thing. Seeing something you have spent hours on actually flying. As well as landing safely.

I am glad you are getting A) Insurance through the BMFA and B) going to a club where others will be able to examine your model before the maiden.


Keep up posted.
 
Could someone reccomend me an electric model which I can use to hook up to my Spektrum, I would rather have an electric model aswel to learn with. Something with good power, not going to put a hole in my pocket and can hook up to my Spektrum DX6i
 
Hmmm, tried to join the wings together but im getting a very slight gap, I have tried to find out whats causing it. I cut down the wood joiner a few times. Its not glue spillage thats dried :\ I cant seem to get rid of the gap

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If it was me and I was being anal, and it really was not going together, I would either create a new hardwood spar to fit down the middle and sand to shape to glue it in OR cover it with some fibre-glass. (I think earlier Wot4 models came with foam wings without a spar, and were glassed together)

However, would probably just lob some extra epoxy down the gap and be done with it :D
 
You need to marry them up to one another before putting 1-2 hours epoxy (NO quicker epoxy) on them. Sand until flush.
Then when they fit flush, make up a mix of 1-2 hour epoxy, glue the main hardwood spar in to one wing and allow to set, then epoxy to the ends of the wings and push together, secure with tape untill set.
 
Magic_x_uk said:
Yes we are all like that. All in breds!
:rolleyes:

But the Wot4, and most of Chris Foss's models are excellent planes. Especially the Acro Wot
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Have your rolleyes right back :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: - perhaps it may have been more accurate for me to say "by a bunch of sandal wearing octogenarian and / or humourless bores". Not sure where the inbreeding comes from.

I fly park flyers (insured and in well thought out locations) and taught myself with a sim and appropriate planes. Clubs aren't for everyone and neither should they be. I was joking but actually your patronising rant reinforces my view that limiting myself to light weight electrics and enjoying flying with just a couple of pals suits me.
 
Ah yeah by the way, found out why im having problems with my cowl, my bloody engine is mounted too far forward! So basically the cowl wont go in to its correct position without the thrust plate poking right out of the front of the cowl, which is going to mean I have to remount it, which means I have to get that hex screw out! :(:(
 
How much has it affected the C of G of the whole thing?

Might be worth just checking the balance, and move stuff around to adjust it to the correct place.

That way, all you need to do is just shift the receiver battery backwards a bit, saves you the other hassel!
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
How much has it affected the C of G of the whole thing?

Might be worth just checking the balance, and move stuff around to adjust it to the correct place.

That way, all you need to do is just shift the receiver battery backwards a bit, saves you the other hassel!
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I havnt done the centre of gravity yet, that usuallly comes last when everything is in and fitted more permanantly, at the moment im still moving my radio gear and battery around.
 
I think you are making this whole thing a lot more complicated than it needs to be..

The Wot4 is a bashable simple design model aircraft. Very popular for its easy build/setup and flexability.

I am not trying to be annoying here, but you are not creating a precision instument. Its a wing, a tail, a fuselage, engine and some simple radio gear.

I dont understand how you are managing to make it take this long?! Where do you live? I reckon if someone came and gave you a hand it would be done in a couple of hours at the most. Perhaps thats the best option?
 
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