Nani goal

THFC · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:57

It's bad enough watching Nani fallover all the time a la ronaldo

But tonight is a joke, handles the ball then kicks into an empty net from free play.

Do you blame the ref for not listening to the linesman.

I blame the player cheatin **** - he knows what he did.

Football is turning into a joke - thought the Mendes goal 6 yrs ago was bad enough, Lampards goal etc

What next?

Greenlizard0 · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:59

This and the 'Crouch is rubbish' thread. What is wrong with the general larger thread already discussing the issue at hand?

There's also a banter one too for random comments.

mike62 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:00

THFC said:
It's bad enough watching Nani fallover all the time a la ronaldo

But tonight is a joke, handles the ball then kicks into an empty net from free play.

Do you blame the ref for not listening to the linesman.

I blame the player cheatin **** - he knows what he did.

Football is turning into a joke - thought the Mendes goal 6 yrs ago was bad enough, Lampards goal etc

What next?

The ref gives the penalty that should have been given?

THFC · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:06

mike62 said:
The ref gives the penalty that should have been given?

What penalty?

Are we watching the same channel ESPN - Can't see no spot kick

Robbo · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:08

BUTTHURT

BaZ87 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:10

THFC said:
Can't see no spot kick

So you could see the penalty

And as already said, use the spoilers thread.

jakeke · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:10

If Arsenal hadn't have score I'd be furious, alas I don't care. But seriously, Spurs were already 1 - 0 down and would have lost anyway, yes a bad decision, but not really a game changer

Robert1986 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:21

Nani did nothing wrong. Fair play to him.

muon · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:23

Robert1986 said:
Nani did nothing wrong. Fair play to him.

Exactly, how comes Spurs fans aren't blaming Gomez at all. Nani just exploited a misunderstanding and was on top of what was happening.

Why blame Nani for realising that the ball was technically in play. If your team did the same, you wouldn't be blaming the player.

edit:

glad to see this recognised in the PL games thread.

nicktay2605 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:33

You obviously can't blame Nani for capitalising on the situation. If you want to blame anybody, blame Gomes or the officials, or both. Saying Nani is at fault just stinks of sour grapes.

manic111 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:47

The fault was divided between Gomes and the ref. I'm not sure how Nani can be blamed.

Jakstaar2007 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:53

nicktay2605 said:
You obviously can't blame Nani for capitalising on the situation. If you want to blame anybody, blame Gomes or the officials, or both. Saying Nani is at fault just stinks of sour grapes.

But he grabbed the ball looking for a penalty.

Therefore it is either a penalty or a free kick. Nani knew that, so he was in the wrong. But Mark Clattenburg is the worst premier league ref, and we always get very dodgy decisions against us against Man United, i.e. Mendes' goal, Dodgy pen when we were 2-0 up last year, and tonight.

Mr-White · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:53

jakeke said:
If Arsenal hadn't have score I'd be furious, alas I don't care. But seriously, Spurs were already 1 - 0 down and would have lost anyway, yes a bad decision, but not really a game changer

Spurs still had a chance at 1-0 considering how end to end it was, the second goal just killed that off.

manic111 said:
The fault was divided between Gomes and the ref. I'm not sure how Nani can be blamed.

I blame the ref, he lost control of the game and failed to instruct the players after an incident had occurred. If he had given a penalty, free kick or goal kick then he's made a decision but he didn't which has caused confusion between the players and other officials which is disgraceful.

MW

muon · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:58

Jakstaar2007 said:
But he grabbed the ball looking for a penalty.

Therefore it is either a penalty or a free kick. Nani knew that, so he was in the wrong. But Mark Clattenburg is the worst premier league ref, and we always get very dodgy decisions against us against Man United, i.e. Mendes' goal, Dodgy pen when we were 2-0 up last year, and tonight.

So if a shot hits the underside of the bar crosses the line and comes out again. You will be the first to blame Gomes for not pointing out the goal?

I wouldn't blame Gomes and nor does Nani deserve any blame here for the goal.

manic111 · 30 Oct 2010 at 20:59

Mr-White said:
Spurs still had a chance at 1-0 considering how end to end it was, the second goal just killed that off.

I blame the ref, he lost control of the game and failed to instruct the players after an incident had occurred. If he had given a penalty, free kick or goal kick then he's made a decision but he didn't which has caused confusion between the players and other officials which is disgraceful.

MW

Yes, the ref was abysmal in that situation, and Gomes was only able to err because of the ref's error. However, in football you are taught to play to the whistle. I learnt this playing at school when I was 7. Gomes didn't and was punished, and deserves a share of the blame.

MissChief · 30 Oct 2010 at 21:00

Play to the whistle, ALWAYS. Gomez should know never to make assumptions.

Mr-White · 30 Oct 2010 at 21:21

Gomes played the free kick as the linesman had flagged for handball. The ref obviously didn't see it but still overruled his linesman who did.

Even though what happened happened the ref should have taken the play back to Gomes and then played from there. Continuing from his **** up just made things worse.

MW

Stewy · 30 Oct 2010 at 21:26

Lad + Banter = Lanter, 'nuff said.

BaZ87 · 30 Oct 2010 at 22:12

Mr-White said:
Gomes played the free kick as the linesman had flagged for handball. The ref obviously didn't see it but still overruled his linesman who did.

That's what I originally thought but the replay showed that the lino didn't raise his flag until well after Nani scored.

Gomes just assumed the free-kick was given.

drunkenmaster · 30 Oct 2010 at 22:39

Mr-White said:
Gomes played the free kick as the linesman had flagged for handball. The ref obviously didn't see it but still overruled his linesman who did.

Even though what happened happened the ref should have taken the play back to Gomes and then played from there. Continuing from his **** up just made things worse.

MW

NO, the linesman FLAGGED thats it, people keep assuming he flagged for this, that or the other, he could quite easily have been flagging simply to get the ref's attention.

I do like how anyone that doesn't think its a penalty thinks it was a flag for a handball, anyone that thinks it was a penalty, and not me, thinks it was a flag for that, or offside or a handball or anything.

I think we have no idea what the flag was for, especially as various people have different idea's about when the flag went up, after the tug, after the handball, after the goal, after the match, or next tuesday.

Nani did nothing wrong, correct decision was a penalty, with a very high chance of 2-0, and kaboul off(I'd forgotten how soft his first yellow was, but theres no way around that). The next best decision would have been freekick, if the ref waved play on I can't tell, I've only seen pics of ref after Nani asks the ref, at that point he said play on. IF it was playing the advantage, when Nani got it the advantage was gone so I assume he wasn't playing the advantage. Remember the handball was goal side of Nani, and the ref was behind him Kaboul and a couple others.

Clattenburg was crap, simple as that, Spurs weren't in it, end to end, but no real threat, VDV went off Spurs shut down, Bale wasn't involved in the game, there was a VERY slim chance Spurs could have gotten a goal back.