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IMO water will be replaced, it is just what with.

You say it won't, and i say it will.

We already know we can remove heat, we just ain't found the best method yet.

My links.

50 years as an engineer and seeing the changes that we never believed possible.



Edit:a Helicopter Engineer.


Years ago a certain blade would not work, Now that same blade works with a few changes.
 
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You're an engineer? In that case I'll refine the argument, but am bewildered that you failed to follow the argument related to viscousity of thermal paste. The issue isn't finding something which works better at transferring heat away than water. Shadows link shows at least one product which achieves this. The issue is finding a material which works better at the temperature range 20 to 60 centigrade, while costing something close to what people will buy. As water at 60p a litre is difficult to beat, simply because it works very well and costs so little. You have to find a replacement to bring to market at under £30 a litre in order to actually sell any. Oh, while nontoxic etc. Heat transfer rates within the liquid are not the place to improve upon.

The only meaningful improvement that can be made at the available price is anti algae and anti corrosion, which is what this product is. As they are undercutting fesers competing product, it should sell well. However as it is distilled water with chemicals added, it will perform negligibly worse than deionised water. It'll look prettier/not corrode things/not grow things while it does so, but it will not perform better.
 
moremoney said:
50 years as an engineer and seeing the changes that we never believed possible.
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Um, ok as an Engineer then you'll know that water has a massive specific heat capacity. You'll be hard pressed to find a readily available, cheap, non-volatile, non-toxic and basically inert low viscosity liquid at these temperature ranges that even comes close. You could try Ammonia for a couple of percent improvement, but I wouldn't recommend it :)

There are better methods to remove energy, any latent heat phase change method is a place to start. But you'll always loose efficiency.
 
I thought ammonia attacks copper?

And is a gas, thinking about it. So ammonia in water, don't know if that attacks things or not. Shall try to find out.
 
Liquid (aqueous NH3) Ammonia attacks quite a few plastics, rubber and lots of coatings. Highly corrosive to galvanised zinc and copper surfaces. Not to mention its pretty unpleasant on people. That's why I wouldn't recommend it. It was a joke, but I suppose with the right materials, it does have a very slightly higher SHC lol.

The point is plain old water, luckily for the Earth is one of natures best absorbers and storers (sic) of heat.
 
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rjkoneill said:
silver kills bacteria
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Nice, silver is an amazing metal, it's a great heat conductor, and an awesome electronic conductor... I think I'm going to get a silver coil, even tho I'm already using a few spoonfuls of car coolant in my loop.

Also, I don't think anyone is going to beat good old H20 for performance... and if they do, I imagine F1 teams will be the first to try it out, whatever this new wonder liquid is!

As for thermal paste in the loop, you'd probably be better off using honey! :p I seem to remember someone trying Vegetable cooking oil tho! :D
 
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Not the ideal solution then :)

Cheers for the clarification, chemistry is not my strong point.
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You're right though, everything you put in the pure water actually drops its SHC. But it really is by a tiny amount. Even salt water with lots of total dissolved solids TDS is only a few percent lower than the purest H20. So put what you like in the water within reason, just don't expect it to actually remove any more heat.
 
linky - as fornowagain said ammonia is better - but has SOOOO many associalted problems.

Water is amazing - it's as close to magic as nature gets.

it's a magnet (adhesion AND cohesion)
it's a solid that increased in size
it neutral (pH 7)
high specific heat index
very high surface tension
universal solvent
it's the only natural molecule found in all three states on the earth crust!
 
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you won't find better than water, its perfect for the job. Its not even worth looking for something better, and i doubt people are wasting their time doing it.
 
is the silver coil a new development then?
You literally put it in the loop and it has a bacterialcidal effect?

Yeh water I 'think' is the strangest liquid on earth with all it's properties totalled up:)
 
Any fancy fluid :

a) Picks up metal from the loop, so if its non-conductive before, it sure aint after a few days
b) Is expensive
c) Offers nothing over water

If your GPU gets wet under water, dry it out. If it's soaked in FluidXP or similar, it tends to leave a residue.
 
any 1 tryed running bleach through there systems? i would hate to think of the nasties actually capable of growing in that...

as for its corrosive natures... well i relay would hate to think of it...

from what i know it wouldn't be quite as good as water, but i'm sure adding a little wouldn't relay hurt...

but then again, i AM an idiot..
 
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