Narrowed down my choice to two DSLRs..details inside

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Either the
Canon 7D
or
Nikon D7000

Canon
pros - able to share lenses with my partner, ever so slightly more familiar with the brand, cheaper lens compared to nikon?
Cons - more expensive outlay for a camera which seems to be very similar to much cheaper d7000

Nikon
pros- better bang for buck by far initially, double sd slots
cons - not being able to share lenses, more expensive lenses?, less familiarity

ive done quite a lot of reading etc but cant choose. Its hard to justify the 7d as its much more expensive than the nikon, but of course this is insignificant if lenses overall are cheaper with the canon ecosystem.

Then theres the sharing with my GF, although many times we will probably want to use same lens type if we go somewher together it cant be a bad thing to have same lens mount, say if we go to a mature reserve with a macro lens and distance. This would be especially relevant initially before getting more lenses

So the situation with having two people doing it makes the question a little more complicated
 
As was said in the other thread, it makes sense to stick with Canon because that way you can share lenses. There also isn't really much in it with prices for glass and you can still buy third party lenses which would be available on both brands anyway.

I still have a 7D myself as a crop camera, however it is getting on a bit now. Bare in mind that there is a chance there will be a 7D mkii perhaps later this year, though who knows where it will fit into the range and what specs it will have.
 
Yeah it is quite old. Im guessing the new 7d would be significantly more expensive than the current 7d is now?
There seems to be a deluge of cameras just below this price point
 
Yes, the trend lately has been for Canon bodies and lenses, infact just about everything that is replacing something is more expensive, with the price then dropping a little over the course of about six months.

So its as to where that comes in as if the current 7D will be be somewhat discounted or continue at its price point until stock is cleared.

The 5D mkii barely dropped in price when the 5D mkiii launched.
 
while I generally agree that t is good to share lenses and systems it is not such a big gain as one might think. For example, if you only have one wide-normal lens and one tele photo then how are you and your OH going to share lenses if you both want to ave the telephoto to photograph wildlife when at your local park? Someone will end up with the lens they don't want - happy wife = happy life dictates you will be with the wrong lens.


Once you have multiple lenses that share functionality somewhat then it gets better. E.g. I have a 70-200 f/2.8, 70-300mm f5.6 an a 300mm f/4.0. For wildlife my wife is happy with the 70-300 and I will take the 300mm f/4.0. At the wide end I have a 16-85mm f/5.6 and 24-70mm f/2.8 , the wife has an 18-105mm so we can each find a setup that we like.

Not trying to persuade you one way or the other but sharing systems doesn't make a big difference until you have lots duplicates - once you have done that it doesn't really matter if the duplicates are on a different system. Also if one of you goes FF then again it wont really matter much if this is a different system because lens choices will be widely different.


It is actually the smaller things that are more important - sharing a batteries & charger etc when traveling (although my wife's D7000 uses different batteries to my D90...), consistent rendition/color/cast of photos (canon and nikon have distinct looks and colours that are consistent across bodies within each company but are noticeably different). Rotation of lens mount as well.
 
I can see that yes, I also thought that. If we are both out in same place we will probably want same lens type.

I have seen the difference in pictures from both cameras and if anything the nikon seems a little more saturated and Tbh I'm not sure what I prefer

This Weekend I'm going to try and find somewhere to try the cameras physically as I don't know how they compare. If I prefer the canon it will make the choice easy. However I don't want to find the nikon better as it will complicate things, particularly the sharing aspect

On lenses side of things I think what I'm most interested in is macro and distance, especially macro shots tbh.
I may end up getting a canon 100mm if I end up with canon fairly soon with the gf getting a 70-200 of some spec
 
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Pretty sure I'm getting the 7d.

I don't think I'll bother with a starter kit

As a first dslr what should I get as a first lens?
I either want it to be macro or distance.

I've decided not to get a new console at all so have about 600 ish for a lens
 
al4x said:
Pretty sure I'm getting the 7d.

I don't think I'll bother with a starter kit

As a first dslr what should I get as a first lens?
I either want it to be macro or distance.

I've decided not to get a new console at all so have about 600 ish for a lens
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Just be aware if you don't have a standard zoom lens then you will be fighting with your partner to share theirs!;)

As a first lens if you don't want a kit lens I would look at either the Canon 15-85mm f/5.6 IS or the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS (look second hand to get it within price).
The choice basically comes down to more reach and noticeably wider with the 15-85 giving bigger impact and perspective to many landscape/urban/architecture photos, or the faster aperture of the 17-55 allowing better ow light performance and a shallower DoF for portraits. It actually makes sense to own both types of photos but I tend to prefer the 15-85mm type lenses (I have the similar Nikon 16-85). Very sharp, great optical performance, very versatile, wide end is incredibly useful for my work. I then have some faster primes lens (35mm + 50mm + 85mm f/1.8) if I want better low light and shallower DoF. In this sense the 17-55mm f/2.8 is a bit of a middle ground, flexible as a standard zoom is and faster than the slower it lenses, but not as fast an aperture as the primes. I don't like compromises, I want my tools to do one thing or the other to the best it can. Every purchase in my life tends to be more specialized and avoid the middle ground jack of all trades kind of equipment ( I have 7 pairs of skis that all do different things very well).

However, neither of those are a macro or distance (known as tele lenses).

For Marco it depends what you want to photograph, flowers and static things then a Sigma 70mm f/2.8, Tamron 60mm f/2.0 (doubles as a portrait lens) , Canon 100mm Macro. For insects and moving things then the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 Macro or Sigma 180m f/3.5. I don;t know if canon have a 200mm macro like Nikon does. All macro lenses get you the same 1:1 reproduction, but longer focal length macros achieve this while preserving a longer working distance to the subject which is important when photographing things like insects that can be scared away.

For tele lenses it depends how much reach you need. Architecture/landscape/people big animals that you can safely approach then one of the 70-200mms works well. For smaller animals and birds you will want at least a 70-300 or the 100-400mm, or better yet the 400mm f5.6 IS or 300mm f/4.0 IS combined with 1.4xTC.
 
i have been reading a bit about macro lenses
unfortunately i want to snap insects etc and have read about the distance limitations. The cost of the lenses appropriate for this seem above my price range. i dont know if the 100mm is appropriate.
 
I went into currys today and had a hold of both cameras

i did like the feel of the canon better
the price difference was immense. The canon was more than 2x as expensive rhan the nikon.
It even looks as if d7100 will be cheaper than the 7d

but i guess i should go with the canon anyway.
 
I've had a quick look and it seems that the UK price for the 7D is very high at the moment. If you can find one supplier through a different supply channel (either a UK based seller or one based abroad).

If you're into the 7D you could also look out for a used Nikon D300s.

Have you also discounted the 60D?
 
ill be getting one from abroad yes,

i did look at the 60D but thought most reviews seem to say the 7D was a decent step up over it.

Im wary about buying used as this is my first cam
 
Canon 7D twice the price of a D7000? Wow. I would certainy be going Nikon if that were the case.

My mates have Canon's and I have a Nikon, but because I got a spread of lenses I don't feel like I'm missing out by not being able to share them.
 
^^ yeah, if the 7D is really twice the price of the D7000 then I would forgo the lens sharing and buy the D7000 and put the money saved into lenses.
 
When I held both I much prefered the canon tbh.
The price of the d7100 is the hard thing, it's about 70 pound more

I just looked at the 70d and apart from the video it seems pretty similar to to 7d
Not sure I want to miss summer waiting for it


EDT
Paying for this tomorrow unless anyone can convince me otherwise :p
 
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I think it'll be worth holding out for, 7D is a bit long in the tooth and I'd only recommend it if you were shooting a lot of sport and needed proper weather sealing.
 
Yeah, I too am waiting for the 70d to come out and I'll probably get that and keep my 650d as a second body! Would be nice not having to change lenses all the time but mostly I would like some speedier AF.

The 7dmk2 isn't looking like it'll be out till 2014 and probably not in January either if CanonRumors is to be believed. Also, the price is likely to be something around £1500 mark since the 70d is just over £1000 for body only.
 
I must admit a new body is tempting but I just can't justify it at the moment. I haven't really felt any limitations in the 650D and I doubt an upgrade to another APS-C Canon would give me any IQ improvements. Even weather sealing doesn't tempt me at the moment, maybe I'll change my mind if I ruin my camera in the rain sometime :)
 
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