Narrowed down my choice to two DSLRs..details inside

having your partner on the same system does have a small advantage but unless you duplicate lenses you end up having difficulties sharing and if you do duplicate lenses then it doesn't really matter what system you have duplicated it on.

For ample, lets say you buy a 100-400 and you go to S.A. for a safari, well only one of you has the ideal lens so how are you going to share this?


If you both like different types of photography then it can work out because you will use different lenses, but then the same kind of argument holds that if you are going to use different lenses then putting them on different camera systems doesn't change the equation.


The advantage is more subtle, things like sharing the same batteries and charger or being able to swap cameras and have the controls feel right, getting photos that have the same skin tones and rendition etc..


One thing to be aware of the Canon 65mm is that at that focal length it isn't ideal for live insects. Something like 105mm works better on a crop, or even the 150mm Sigma. You get more working distance, lighting is easier, less likely to scare the insects etc. Also the Canon 65mm cost similar to a lens like the 300mm F/4.0 which is good for wildlife. If you are on a budget then I would look at the Tamron 90mm, Sigma 105mm Macro lenses, available for both Canon and Nikon.


Now I am not trying to persuade you to go Nikon, although the D7100 is undoubtedly a much better camera in itself, just trying to let you know some additional info in regards to macro lenses etc.
My Wife has a Nikon D7000 but we never really share lenses, she like her 18-105 kit lens and I gave her my 50mm f/1.8 I never use, we have never shared lenses since then. The only reason she got the Nikon was again, the D7000 was just the best crop camera you could buy at the time.

This is a good point and has crossed my mind a few times, the benefit would more come if only one person was doing something

i was so convinced i would be getting a canon i already have a 100L which i used on the gfs 400d before it was sold
its not a hassle to sell it should i decide to go nikon

i dont think i have been in this much of a quandary over buying something for ages!
I see it as quite a big commitment
the fact that what nikon comes out with seems to be better than canons equivalent recent also doesnt help!
 
the 400d was my partners and she wanted to sell it for a dog. it was a bit restrictive with the iso, i didnt use it much but dont think it had raw, the MP count was quite low when cropping into macro shots

i dont think i really want the 6D, i feel a crop will be much better for me tbh, wildlife is something i do want to do and the extra reach will be handy for that. (am i right in thinking it will also be useful for macro?)

at present i think i may go for the 60D and wait until the 7D ii comes out, im sure that will be at least as good as the d7100 (he says through gritted teeth)

i wont invest much in lenses just in case nikon keeps up the better cam and cheaper bodies
maybe just a wide angle and my macro.. the 100-400 is a lot if i find i want to hop
 
thanks for the detail (i do like all the technical concepts in photography and this is another reason why im doing it)

so at 1:1 mag on the lens that real world inch would actually be an inch on the sensor no matter how big the sensor (given the sensor is equi distant to the lens glass) between FF and APS-C..thus the tubes available increase the distance between lens and sensor.

so is there a theoretical point where if given enough pixels that the lens becomes the weak point and cannot provide enough detail to saturate the pixels? made even worse by adding tubes?

i dont really see many draw backs with crop for macro except that FF can gather more light
 
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yes, the 400d i did feel lacking with that lens, that damn nikon has a fair few i hear :p
 
I'll have a read of those articles

I think I've discounted the 70d now, it's not the price but the bang for buck that Iccan't handle
 
Deciding between nikon and just sell the one lens I have or get 60d
Dont really want to go older than the 60d
 
Im gonna get the 60D, im sure canon wont always be behind nikon and hope that the 7d mkii will be the one i get once i have got the basics with the 60D

so now i have some spare cash for other stuff
tripod..this is essential for everything i want to do
bag for 2 lens and cam
strap
rail for macro
flash system geared to macro
and maybe another lens for night/dusk work?...any recommendations here?..will probably be doing star trains, car light trails and other creative stuff..at a guess i want a wide angled lens which doesnt have to be too fast..however if this lens was also to have daylight applications whatr would i be looking for?
 
I might go from them. Helps they have a uk number, but could just be a house

I have been looking at the 7d mkii rumours and although speculation it seems they may have the same sensor as the 70d
Does this show a shift to video? :-\
 
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Unless anyone thinks i am making a big mistake i should have the 60D by next weekend after my AMEX card gets here

im still not convinced by my choice, but i have to bite the bullet
 
i saw that but its 3rd hand i think, and i can actually get a new one cheaper from digital rev
 
I can't see myself doing much video, not for 400£ more anyway

The 50d is discontinued anyway is it not?

The screen on the 60d might be useful for macro I thought

I agree I didn't lik the build quality
 
This is the sort of thing that is really annoying. Just removing features from the same line. There really is no ideal canon body for me, I will just have to compromise somewhere
 
Unless you're partner has some good equipment you would actually want to borrow, I can't see why that is dictating you're decision tbh.

Anyway, I get the impression that you're not entirely sure what stuff you will enjoy shooting other than being interested in some macro. Just get some AF extension tubes and use her camera. Learn more about photography in general and the different genres, and then make a more informed decision.

one thing was things like getting a 100-400, we can both both some money towards it rather than just me spending a 1K

i know i am going to want to do night photography, macro and birds/wildlife, not sure beyond that

with me being on the fence about both camera and brand i dont want to commit to much should i decide to change
i was hoping the 70D would be better and hoping the new 7d will be the camera i have for a while if it is good enough..if this is not the case it would be at that point i consider switching
 
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Is she a serious enthusiast herself then? Otherwise it's not really fair to ask her to start footing half the bill for lenses you want.

she is into wildlife and wanted the -200mm but seems to be too short for what we want to do
 
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