NASCAR 2011 season thread

That was a surprise, even at the restart I didn't think he'd do it, loved his move down in front of Carl Edwards to ensure the win, what a way to start a career :p

JRS, do you know what races he's scheduled to do? It was mentioned during the race that he was only part time this year but would be good to see if he can be competitive on some of the more 'normal' ovals...
 
He was at least scheduled to do 17 Nationwide races, I'm not sure how many cup races. He didn't actually get any points for winning the 500 because he had registered to get Nationwide points. I can easily see him doing a full season in Nationwide now, shouldn't be hard to get sponsorship.
 
He was scheduled to run the first five Cup events as well, so he should be at Phoenix. This article says that the Wood Brothers team is likely to add Martinsville and Texas to his schedule as well.

Just so surreal. Three years ago, the #21 didn't even qualify for this race. They don't run a full schedule any more. They hadn't won a race since Bristol '01, haven't won a Daytona 500 since '76. And the names that this kid can stand alongside now....Tiny Lund, Cale Yarborough, A.J. Foyt, Dave "The Silver Fox" Pearson....and Trevor Bayne. Guys who have won the Daytona 500 for the Wood Brothers.
 
First time i've sat and watch the Daytona 500 and christ that was one long race ie time wise

Was mad watching the pack all bump drafting 3 abreast going round the bends, just one thing wasn't bump drafting banned as normally play the ovals on forza and i'm sure a few of the americans i play with said it was banned for a while
 
First time i've sat and watch the Daytona 500 and christ that was one long race ie time wise

Was mad watching the pack all bump drafting 3 abreast going round the bends, just one thing wasn't bump drafting banned as normally play the ovals on forza and i'm sure a few of the americans i play with said it was banned for a while

You should watch the Coke 600 in May...

To me the bump draft rules were always a bit of a tough thing to police. I still think the yellow line rule is a joke as it is currently written. The combination of the drivers learning when and when to not bump draft in the corners, the vagueness of the rule itself, and the fact that both Daytona and Talladega have been repaved are all factors that made the rule needless.

Getting back to the yellow line rule, if a driver forces the passing driver below the yellow line he should get black flagged too. If it were a "wall" as the officials like to suggest, drivers wouldn't force each other into it because they would get taken out too. The lead car is free to block and force the other guy below the line. When Edwards went for his flight at 'dega it was because he tried to push Brad below the yellow line. Brad just refused to give in, unlike most drivers.
 
Going to post this now in case I don't get time nearer the end of the week.

Week 2 of the NASCAR 2011 tour sees the teams go somewhere a bit more exciting than the snore-o-drome at Fontana. Instead, we're goin' to Phoenix!

Phoenix International Raceway
Phoenix
AZ


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Completed : 1964
Distance : 1 mile
Shape : Tri-oval
Banking : 11° Turns 1-2, 9° Turns 3-4, 3° frontstretch, 9° backstretch
Frontstretch : 1,179 feet
Backstretch : 1,551 feet
Seating : 76,800

In 1964, when Phoenix International Raceway was carved out of the foothills of the Estrella Mountains, it was intended to be a new jewel in the crown of American open-wheel racing.

Drivers like Mario Andretti, A.J. Foyt, Parnelli Jones and the Unsers soon came to love the 1-mile paved oval with the unique bend in the backstretch. And they really loved coming to Phoenix, where the tourism industry was just starting to grow and its Western style hospitality was second to none.

But it wasn't until 1988, when NASCAR's Cup Series racing came to PIR, that auto racing in Phoenix really became a major sporting attraction for the Valley of the Sun. New racing legends and legends-in-the-making like Davey Allison, Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace and the rest of the Cup stars found out firsthand what their Champ Car brethren had known for years: Phoenix International Raceway is truly a great place to race, both for the drivers and especially the fans.

Today, Phoenix International Raceway has a tradition that is unmatched in the world of racing. The IndyCars have made 58 visits to PIR, and the annual fall NASCAR weekend, including Cup, Nationwide, Truck and Featherlite Southwest Series races, is one of the biggest events in the entire state.
Qualifying is very important for the Cup race here. You don't often see a car come from outside the top 10 in qually to win - maybe twice in the last ten races here? And in four of those ten races it's been the polesitter who has gone on to win IIRC.

That doesn't mean that the racing here doesn't offer much action. Far from it. The braking zone into Turn One is a good place for an overtake, if you can do the last-of-the-late-brakers job well enough. And by the end of the race, someone will be running short on braking power if the race stays green for much of the time!

Suspect that there are going to be rather more Trevor Bayne fans in the crowd this time out! :D
 
He was at least scheduled to do 17 Nationwide races, I'm not sure how many cup races. He didn't actually get any points for winning the 500 because he had registered to get Nationwide points. I can easily see him doing a full season in Nationwide now, shouldn't be hard to get sponsorship.

He was scheduled to run the first five Cup events as well, so he should be at Phoenix. This article says that the Wood Brothers team is likely to add Martinsville and Texas to his schedule as well.

Just so surreal. Three years ago, the #21 didn't even qualify for this race. They don't run a full schedule any more. They hadn't won a race since Bristol '01, haven't won a Daytona 500 since '76. And the names that this kid can stand alongside now....Tiny Lund, Cale Yarborough, A.J. Foyt, Dave "The Silver Fox" Pearson....and Trevor Bayne. Guys who have won the Daytona 500 for the Wood Brothers.

Cheers for the info, good to see he'll get a run of races to see whether he's as good on non-superspeedways, it'll be interesting to see as from my limited knowledge (and a small amount of iRacing experience) it's quite a different proposition, especially places like Pheonix, Bristol and potentially Martinsville that he'll be doing.

On that note, Pheonix should be a good race, more of a 'proper' track imo, looking forward to it :)
 
it'll be interesting to see as from my limited knowledge (and a small amount of iRacing experience) it's quite a different proposition, especially places like Pheonix, Bristol and potentially Martinsville that he'll be doing.

Your "limited knowledge" and iRacing experience are exactly right. Martinsville is basically two drag strips with a hairpin at either end, very little banking and very close racing. Bristol since the re-pave a while back is a full two-lane track, about the same length as Martinsville but with steep banking and higher speeds. Phoenix is a 1 mile intermediate oval, unique in that the dog-leg turn is on the back straight, a multiple-groove racetrack with many possible lines to get around it. None of these is anything like Daytona, even this new Daytona :)

By the way, I found the proper details for his schedule this year - he's doing the full Nationwide season for Roush-Fenway (*spit*), and 18 races now for Wood Bros in Cup.

From here:

Even though NASCAR would have allowed Daytona 500 winner Trevor Bayne to change his eligibility for the championship from the Nationwide Series to the Sprint Cup Series, Bayne announced Tuesday he is sticking with his plans to run for the Nationwide title.

As tempting as switching to Sprint Cup would have been -- with NASCAR saying he would become eligible to run for rookie of the year and that his win at Daytona would count toward a possible wild-card entry into the Chase -- Bayne showed he either is mature beyond his 20 years or has gotten some excellent advice -- or both.

Weighted most heavily in his decision is the plan to run a partial schedule on the Cup side -- even with the Daytona 500 win. At this point, barring additional sponsorship, Bayne plans to run 18 races in the Cup Series for Wood Brothers Racing and a full Nationwide schedule for Roush Fenway Racing.

"The only thing that changed is that we get to be the Daytona 500 champions, which is really, really incredible," Bayne said on Tuesday during a conference call with reporters. "But I think that we're still going to have an awesome year at Roush Fenway, running for that Nationwide championship.

"Obviously, they [Roush] have still got a blank car, and I'd love to get some partners on it, but as for now, we're still running full time, and the Wood Brothers only have 18 races. ... I don't regret any of our decisions there. We're off to a good start in both series with a 10th [in Saturday's Drive4COPD 300 Nationwide event] and a first."
Smart kid. Even with what happened on Sunday, there's no sense rushing into a full Cup season. Especially since the Wood Brothers team haven't really got the resources to stretch to a full campaign. Must have been hugely tempting for all concerned, mind....

I suppose if they had a sponsor come to them right now and say "we've seen enough, here's the cash for a full tilt at the Sprint Cup" then it'd be a different story. But the sun has set on the days when stuff like that could happen.

He finished 10th in the Nationwide race at Daytona. Lose the non-points cars, and that puts him 5th in the table with a four-point gap below him and only a single point behind the 4th place driver. There are plenty worse ways to start a Nationwide campaign. And if he finishes well up the standings in the series this year (and has a few more good runs in the Wood Bros car as well!) he's going to look very attractive to sponsors for a full Cup run in 2012.
 
Some notes.

1) Bayne caught the wall in practice, and has had to go to the backup car. The left front brake locked up going into T3, the front-right was doing nowt - didn't lock, didn't brake, didn't do a damned thing. End result, he went into the retaining wall at a good lick. A shame, but he doesn't seem to be stressed over it which is a good sign.
2) As I type this, the current three fastest in Nationwide practice are Cup drivers. I think it might be time for the NASCAR hierarchy to acknowlege that their changes to the points system might not have the desired effect....
3) Joe Menzer (a NASCAR.com journo of long standing) reckons that Jimmie Johnson will win the Cup race this weekend. Not going to bet against that myself.
4) Truck race broadcast starts around 8pm ET - that would be 1am for us. I might stay up, or I might just *cough* grabthetorrentfromRUinmildlyillegalfashion *cough*, haven't decided yet.
 
RU has ruined me over the winter, I've watched tons of races from last year with absolutely no adverts, but I got too used to it and hate adverts even more than usual now I'm back to watching live.

Anyway, here's the stream I usually watch Nascar on. As far as I know, this isn't on the justintv directory, but it's a great quality stream and shows all the practices, qualifying and races from Nascar, and quite often has Speed channel on when there's no racing. Final cup practice is on right now.

http://www.justin.tv/specbrn6/
 
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If there is one thing that I found quite amazing, having watched the Daytona 500 all the way through, was the standard of the radio chatter, especially between the drivers.. You'd never imagine that in formula one..
 
That would be because these guys have the intelligence to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time, unlike your average F1 driver who can barely say anything other than "for sure" :D

Going to have to hold my hand up here - looks like my prediction for the winner might not come true....
 
Well, well, well....I hope it wasn't just me watching that, 'cause you all missed an absolute blinder if so.

The big stories:

1) Jeff Gordon snaps a 66 race losing streak to win. In doing so, he now ties with Cale Yarborough for 5th in the all-time winners list with 83 victories to his name.
2) A 13 car wreck on lap 67 brought out the red flag for a while, with the track completely blocked. Some good cars and potential winners got their day turned to worms at that point.
3) Not long before that wreck, Carl Edwards had his day pretty much ended when Kyle Busch got loose and knocked him to the inside of the track. Carl's car got some pretty heavy front-end damage when he slammed into a rough patch of earth and grass, and he nearly ended up cramming Jeff Gordon into the outside wall as well on his way back up the track. To be fair to Kyle (and even I have to be fair to him occasionally!), after the race he held up his hands and apologised repeatedly for it even though it wasn't even really his fault. Just one of those things that happens when you race close with each other on a track like this.
4) Talking of the track....they started ripping it up right after the race had finished for the repaving and reprofiling work. The first race on the new Phoenix will be in the Chase this November, coming right near the end of the season. Going to add another curveball to the Chase, and some people aren't completely in love with the idea of repaving the track. Really hope this place isn't spoiled by what they do with it.
 
I was watching (watched all 3 races live), was a good race, although I kinda wanted Kyle to get the triple again but Jeff was just too good.

Bayne seemed to make a rookie mistake, which I guess is expected,

The damage from Carls crash was impressive, didn't look like much until he hit the grass/kerb and then going into T3 just not turning.
 
Week three, and we're off to Vegas!

Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Las Vegas
NV


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Completed : 1996
Distance : 1.5 miles
Shape : D-shaped oval
Banking : 20° turns, 9° frontstretch, 9° backstretch
Frontstretch : 2,275 feet
Backstretch : 1,572 feet
Seating : 142,000

Just a few miles north of The Strip, Las Vegas Motor Speedway sits like a diamond in the desert. One of the most complete racing complexes in the world, its 1,600 acres include road courses, a three-eighths mile oval, a dirt track and a state-of-the-art drag racing facility.

At its heart, however, is the 1.5-mile Las Vegas Motor Speedway, home of a 400-mile race in the Cup Series, as well as Nationwide and Truck series events.

Construction of the $200 million complex began in 1995. Nearly 2,000 tons of concrete were originally used to build more than 100,000 seats. Shortly after Speedway Motorsports Inc. bought the track in 1998, it announced plans to add 22,000 seats in the Dale Earnhardt Tower overlooking the frontstretch.

The first NASCAR race held at Las Vegas Motor Speedway was a Truck Series event in 1996. The Nationwide Series held a race there in 1997, and a year later the Cup Series made its first visit with Mark Martin picking up the victory in 1998.

Construction of the Richard Petty Terrace in Turn 1 was completed in 2006, allowing fans a shot at 14,000 additional tickets and pushing the track's seating capacity to nearly 150,000.

Additionally, the track saw several major changes in 2006, as the entire surface as reconfigured with progressive banking installed, as well as fan-friendly features in the infield and moving pit road closer to the straightaway

The trucks aren't racing this weekend, so all you get is the Nationwide race on Saturday and the Cup guys on Sunday. 3pm ET on both days (8pm our time). Seems that Jimmie Johnson is the favourite for the Cup race according to the bookies, he'll definitely be looking for a good run this weekend to start piling some points on.
 
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