National speed limit to be cut to 50mph on "most roads" as early as 2010

[Jono]

Bet it'll cause more deaths.

 

[gord]

Bet it'll cause more deaths.

Speed differential is the biggest danger and I agree, this will only widen the gap.

The drivers who do 50 in a 60 will probably do 40 in a 50. Yet the people who do 60 in a 60 will probably do 60 in a 50.

So what will we do? Overtake more? Sounds safer..

 

[stockhausen]

"There will be some in the driving lobby who think this is a further attack and a restriction on people’s freedom," [Jim Fitzpatrick, the roads minister] said. “But when you compare that to the fact we are killing 3,000 people a year on our roads, it would be irresponsible not to do something about it. I’m sure that the vast majority of motorists would support the proposals."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article5864847.ece

I certainly suspect that the majority of the 3,000 people a year killed on our roads would have agreed that it was a good idea.

Frankly making an unpopular decision (if indeed it actually is unpopular) at a time like this is remarkably brave for any politician - Jim Fitzpatrick deserves credit

 

[The Mad Rapper]

I certainly suspect that the majority of the 3,000 people a year killed on our roads would have agreed that it was a good idea.

Frankly making an unpopular decision (if indeed it actually is unpopular) at a time like this is remarkably brave for any politician - Jim Fitzpatrick deserves credit

The problem is that it isn't just unpopular, it's also stupid and wrong.

 

[DreXeL]

I certainly suspect that the majority of the 3,000 people a year killed on our roads would have agreed that it was a good idea.

Frankly making an unpopular decision (if indeed it actually is unpopular) at a time like this is remarkably brave for any politician - Jim Fitzpatrick deserves credit

How many of those 3000 deaths can be directly attributed to speeding though? The governments own statistics show that only something like 1 in 20 accidents are caused by speeding. That's the point he (and you) appear to be conveniently missing.

 

[Janesy B]

I certainly suspect that the majority of the 3,000 people a year killed on our roads would have agreed that it was a good idea.

Frankly making an unpopular decision (if indeed it actually is unpopular) at a time like this is remarkably brave for any politician - Jim Fitzpatrick deserves credit

Are you telling me that EACH AND EVERY one of those deaths were caused by speed?

I think not.....................

 

[stockhausen]

The problem is that it isn't just unpopular, it's also stupid and wrong.

How many of those 3000 deaths can be directly attributed to speeding though? That's the point he (and you) appear to be conveniently missing.

Try to contain your outrage; New Labour are going to lose the next election and as his first act in power, Lord Snooty will undoubtedly remove all speed limits across the country and halve the price of petrol

 

[Hooa]

LAME!

 

[topgun06]

People seem to do 40 everywhere now any way

Oh god tell me about it. There is a 60mph road which you take to get from where I live into Stoke On Trent.

And without fail, I kid you not, at any point in time, on any day of the week, there will always be somebody holding you up, not traveling at 60mph. Usually you have to put up with 40mph! It just grinds my gears! The road isn't dangerous, and it is perfectly safe to travel at the speed limit. I just cannot fathom it!

 

[Nor]

Oh god tell me about it. There is a 60mph road which you take to get from where I live into Stoke On Trent.

And without fail, I kid you not, at any point in time, on any day of the week, there will always be somebody holding you up, not traveling at 60mph. Usually you have to put up with 40mph! It just grinds my gears! The road isn't dangerous, and it is perfectly safe to travel at the speed limit. I just cannot fathom it!

Then the road changes to a 30, and they still do 40.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

I know im a little late to the party here, but surely if cutting the NSL from 60 to 50 because 3,000 people die a year on our roads is a bit of a stark contrast to the god knows how many die each yeah through smoking/passive smoking or alcohol.

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

The UK has a good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2006 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.4 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as the United States (14.3 per 100,000 population), Australia (7.8 per 100,000 population) and Japan (5.7 per 100,000 population).

If this is the case why are they wasting money ****ing off motorists?

 

[gillywibble]

Then the road changes to a 30, and they still do 40.

So true.

 

[stockhausen]

Spot the difference

The UK has a good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2006 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.4 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as the United States (14.3 per 100,000 population), Australia (7.8 per 100,000 population) and Japan (5.7 per 100,000 population).

The UK has an appaling record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2006 it had one of the highest road death rates in the EU, at 15.4 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also higher than the rates for other industrialised nations such as the United States (14.3 per 100,000 population), Australia (7.8 per 100,000 population) and Japan (5.7 per 100,000 population).

See what I did there?

Sources for quotes are so very, very much more convincing

 

[Janesy B]

See what I did there?

Sources for quotes are so very, very much more convincing

What are you trying to prove, other than the fact that you are a little bit dim at times.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208

In 2007, 646 pedestrians were killed in road accidents in Great Britain; this was 22 per cent of all deaths from road accidents, a 78 per cent decrease from 40 years ago when pedestrian fatalities were 2,964.

The total number of deaths in road accidents fell by 7 per cent to 2,946 in 2007 from 3,172 in 2006. However, the number of fatalities has remained fairly constant over the last ten years.

Nearly half (49 per cent) of people killed in road accidents were car users in 2007. Pedal cyclists and motor cyclists represented
5 and 20 per cent of those killed respectively. Occupants of buses, coaches, goods and other vehicles accounted for the remaining 5 per cent of road deaths.

The total number of road casualties of all severities fell by
4 per cent between 2006 and 2007 to approximately 248,000 in Great Britain. This compares with an annual average of approximately 320,000 for the years 1994-98.

The decline in the casualty rate, which takes into account the volume of traffic on the roads, has been much steeper. In 1967 there were 199 casualties per 100 million vehicle kilometres. By 2007 this had declined to 48 per 100 million vehicle kilometres.

The UK has a good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2006 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.4 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as the United States (14.3 per 100,000 population), Australia (7.8 per 100,000 population) and Japan (5.7 per 100,000 population).

I'd rather take it from the horse's mouth than the bull's *******

 

[Dr Who]

See what I did there?

Sources for quotes are so very, very much more convincing

Yeah you edited the real quote to try and discredit a pefectly valid quote.

Kinda childish tbh, anyone with a few minutes to spare can get the data to show only 5% of vehicle accidents are directly attributable to excessive speed, by far the biggest factor is "driver error".

By far the largest number of accidents (in a single police district) involving injury happen in the metropolitan police area on built up roads which would be unaffected by changing a national speed limit.

I wont provide a link to the data, I shall let you google it... Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him to fish, feed him for life!

 

[Django x2]

Another notch on what is the "Reasons to move to Australia" tally chart.

*sigh and from me

 

[Berger]

Ah yes, but then perhaps a population density mixed with road accidents chart would show a clearer picture for all the countries.

I imagine a big red hotspot in the citys and not much in the wilderness!

 

[Darkman]

Invest the money in improving the quality of the road network and more effective driver training.

That will have a far more beneficial effect than changing a load of signs to 50.

P

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

See what I did there?

Yeah I do, you took a dodgy article as the source of your statement instead of a government body that deals with this sort of thing, and ended up looking a bit foolish.

Congratulations.