NEARLY 2 YEARS WAITING: New Mustang GT PP is finally mine!

silversurfer said:
When I was a kid I always thought the cars with a horse were some unknown obscure brand. Maybe not even a real make since I only saw them on TV, see the Wraith. I never knew it was a Ford, I realised it was not Ferrari but was never sure. They had so many variations now it is its own brand, not really a Ford to me. Just like I'd take a Ford GT with no arguments also :D
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Different people tell different stories about how the logo was achieved.

Some claim that Phil Clark, a major player on the design team, was left handed and therefore drew the logo in a way that seemed natural to him.

Others claim that the galloping horse “is shown running the opposite way that trained racehorses run around a track” to represent the free spirit of the car and its customers.

Most interesting perhaps is the story that the logo was originally drawn running from left to right, but was accidentally reversed when converted to a die that would be used to mold the actual physical emblem.
 
Even at 45k euro, the Germans are still buying Mustangs like crazy:


July 2017:
1. 962 Porsche 911
2. 473 Mercedes E-Klasse Coupe
3. 454 Audi TT
4. 364 Ford Mustang
5. 240 Mercedes SLK, SLC
6. 224 Porsche Boxster
7. 187 Mercedes AMG GT
8. 149 Chevrolet Camaro
9. 86 Audi R8
10. 74 Porsche Cayman
11. 62 Jaguar F-Type
12. 48 Toyota GT86

Sales for the first half of 2017:
1. 4.211 Porsche 911
2. 3.846 Audi TT
3. 3.322 Ford Mustang
4. 2.102 Mercedes E-Klasse Coupé
5. 2.041 Mercedes SLK/SLC
6. 1.410 Porsche Boxster
7. 921 Jaguar F-Type
8. 578 Porsche Cayman
9. 527 Chevrolet Camaro
10. 497 Audi R8
11. 482 Mercedes-AMG GT
12. 413 Mercedes SL
13. 288 Nissan 370Z
14. 237 Ferrari 488
15. 171 Lamborghini Aventador


That is some impressive numbers, Ford must be loving it!
 
JediFragger said:
Love it!! Although if they did one in Lime Green I think I may even jump!! :D :cool:
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Wouldn't we all. :D

But the orange has really grown on me, when I was out with a few mates, if I proceed with this car in this colour, it has already being named Orange Huey. :D

Ford have released engine details now:
460HP @ 7600rpm
420lb/ft @ 4600rpm

Rev limit is unknown but rumoured to be around 7800-8000rpm, the 3rd generation of the Coyote has made a great engine even better with more power, more response (higher compression), more torque, better fuel economy and even more willing to rev than it was before. Starting to get quite excited about getting in one.
 
Gibbo said:
Even at 45k euro, the Germans are still buying Mustangs like crazy:


July 2017:
1. 962 Porsche 911
2. 473 Mercedes E-Klasse Coupe
3. 454 Audi TT
4. 364 Ford Mustang
5. 240 Mercedes SLK, SLC
6. 224 Porsche Boxster
7. 187 Mercedes AMG GT
8. 149 Chevrolet Camaro
9. 86 Audi R8
10. 74 Porsche Cayman
11. 62 Jaguar F-Type
12. 48 Toyota GT86

Sales for the first half of 2017:
1. 4.211 Porsche 911
2. 3.846 Audi TT
3. 3.322 Ford Mustang
4. 2.102 Mercedes E-Klasse Coupé
5. 2.041 Mercedes SLK/SLC
6. 1.410 Porsche Boxster
7. 921 Jaguar F-Type
8. 578 Porsche Cayman
9. 527 Chevrolet Camaro
10. 497 Audi R8
11. 482 Mercedes-AMG GT
12. 413 Mercedes SL
13. 288 Nissan 370Z
14. 237 Ferrari 488
15. 171 Lamborghini Aventador


That is some impressive numbers, Ford must be loving it!
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Commoner pleb car if those sales keep up :p
 
Gibbo said:
Wouldn't we all. :D

But the orange has really grown on me, when I was out with a few mates, if I proceed with this car in this colour, it has already being named Orange Huey. :D

Ford have released engine details now:
460HP @ 7600rpm
420lb/ft @ 4600rpm

Rev limit is unknown but rumoured to be around 7800-8000rpm, the 3rd generation of the Coyote has made a great engine even better with more power, more response (higher compression), more torque, better fuel economy and even more willing to rev than it was before. Starting to get quite excited about getting in one.
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Great numbers!!! :cool:
 
JediFragger said:
Great numbers!!! :cool:
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Yeah not bad, Ford finally caught up the EU, remember the BMW S65 was knocking out 400 horses with 8000rpm nearly 10 years ago, though admittedly the Coyote being a 5.0l does a chunk more power and a lot more torque, 420lb/ft VS 295lb/ft, nice to see things going in right direction, question now is how porky will it be, I suspect weight is un-changed to be honest, that can be Fords next job with the S650 model year, get the weight down nearly a 100kg. :)

Of course like this one, it won't be left at those figures for long, though my mod plan is far more simplified this time round, nothing more than a panel filter in the engine bay and remap should see the car making around 510HP / 440lb/ft. Then if I want more shall keep it simply and just fit full length headers to the car which should be good enough for 550+ NA horsepower which combined with that silly fast 10-speed box and drag mode should be nothing short of pretty damn quick. Ford are yet to announce the performance data but rumours of stock car are:

AT / MT

0-60 in 3.9s / 4.5s
0-100 in 7.9s / 9.1s
1/4 in 11.9s@118mph / 13.0s@114mph

The auto is a much quicker car than the manual this time round.
 
They are on my wish list:



Just listen to that, it sounds better in quiet mode than the MY15 stock exhaust did and in loud mode its lovely, certainly no need for aftermarket exhaust on MY18 if you go active.

Then that digital dash, love it, particular in track mode with the horizontal rev counter, looks epic.

Hope the rumours are true and that those are standard features on RHD export models as they are certainly not on the options list, so fingers crossed they are standard fit.
 
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Hi there

Well I might be saying fairwell to the girl sooner than expected, got the car listed on ebay and its already upto 32k, though I have a reserve set of 35k, but to be frank if it gets close I will let her go and get a winter beater until the next one arrives as the M3 won't be available due to spending a few weeks in body shop getting re-sprayed so I shall need to find something to drive around in.

Or if the car does not sell, plan B, put her back to mostly stock and either trade her in or advertise at the trade in price of 31k, which to be frank at 35k with the modification is quite a steal. :)
 
wedrum said:
get yourself a E60 M5 to tied you over :D
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It is indeed a consideration, many tie me over cars have being considered:

- E9x M3 (15k)
- E60 M5 (15k)
- Newer 4.4 M5 (25k)
- B7 RS4 (15k)
- BMW M2 DCT (40k)
- Exige S3 (40k)
- F-type Coupe V6 (40k)
- R35 GTR (40k)


Don't really want to spend more than 40k, needs to be a cash purchase, no finance involved.
M2 is a favourite being new, warranty and all that, but probably really not much different than my E46 to drive, probably slower. Exige was a brief consideration but probably a disastrous car to drive over winter to be frank though they look awesome.

The most sensible seems to be a B7 RS4 as I know they drive supreme on a wet winters B road and you can grab them easily for around 12-15k which is the bottom, so I'd simply find one for 12k and if the market does not change flog it for 12k in a few months or just offer it out at 9.9k to a headline car.

Would love an E60 M5, but I just know I'd get unlucky and everything would break on it and probably end up spending 10k on fixing it, at least the RS4 is pretty solid and from what I can summarise only weakness is the electronic dampers, coking issues and general wear and tear items.

Or I play it safe, buy an M2 hope that six months has little impact on value, but an M2 CS is coming, which knowing my luck would be announced just as I want to shift it and it ends up depreciating like a lead weight, hence RS4 safe buy at under 15k for a winter beater and if I really love it I can simply keep it and park it next to the M3 and still get the MY18 Mustang. Then I have an RS4 as a bad weather car, an M3 for track / weekend toy and the Mustang as the daily hack. :D
 
wedrum said:
if it were me as good as that list is above and pummeling that sort of cash in, i would be buying something with a warranty.
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Why M2 is favourite and they seem to sit at around 40k, so its all about pushing for a good deal, seen a few on BMW AUC for 39-41k with DCT, not particular bothered about options, just would have to be in the nice blue, think its long beach and with DCT. I can then prat around in that for 6 months and sell it when Mustang is due and just price it as cheapest M2 in country which in theory would see it gone pretty quick. Sure if I turn up at BMW for a car advertised at 40k and offer them 38k at end of a month they'd be tempted to let a car go, no idea what kind of margin they have but I know dealers tend to operate on 4-8k profit normally on such cars, but could be wrong.

Only other car I've not researched is the 6.3l AMG's, think C63 saloon and coupe, a car I've always liked the idea of having a quick flirt. :)
 
Get a E92. You won’t lose much and you can scratch that itch. Although I’d want a facelift but don’t know if you get get that in budget ?

They seem to be pretty reliable too.

Can see the RS4 appeal too
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

Well I might be saying fairwell to the girl sooner than expected, got the car listed on ebay and its already upto 32k, though I have a reserve set of 35k, but to be frank if it gets close I will let her go and get a winter beater until the next one arrives as the M3 won't be available due to spending a few weeks in body shop getting re-sprayed so I shall need to find something to drive around in.

Or if the car does not sell, plan B, put her back to mostly stock and either trade her in or advertise at the trade in price of 31k, which to be frank at 35k with the modification is quite a steal. :)
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tough no nonsense advert Gibbo, you shoulda auditioned for the new Death Wish movie....... :D
 
Simon said:
Get a E92. You won’t lose much and you can scratch that itch. Although I’d want a facelift but don’t know if you get get that in budget ?

They seem to be pretty reliable too.

Can see the RS4 appeal too
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An RS4 is sensible as its for Winter and not a car I'd be interested in modding, just service it and tyres if required etc.

I know if I got an E9x because I like them, it would have the exhaust mod done almost immediately and I'd really want a DCT which is a struggle for 15k but not unheard of but plenty of manuals with EDC for under 15k, but I just feel the E9x has to be an M-DCT, its a vastly better car for it, much quicker and those blips on the downshifts are simply epic. I'd just not want to drop much more than 15k on one, 20k max as the more I spend on one now the more its likely to depreciate or maybe not, really not sure how the prices are on these because they can be had as cheap as 12k but there are some at 32k, so risk of buying a nice one is it could take longer to sell on whereas there is always a buyer for a running car in average/good condition at bottom market price.

I am happy to lose a couple of grand, just not more to be honest hence a 12k RS4 is attractive, just sell it end of Feb/March next year for £9995, bound to grab attention if markets cheapest and a good all rounder, once the Mustang is sold could be this month or next, I will start shopping and just sit back for a really good deal on a car, advantage of cash can just sit tight waiting for one of the better deals.

Though driving the Mustang tonight, such a fun thing to drive and feels like a rocket ship, the acceleration feels so brutal in it, do love it for that, always feels proper fast. :)
 
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