NEARLY 2 YEARS WAITING: New Mustang GT PP is finally mine!

Acme said:
In 2013



Don't get me wrong, I don't want there to be a diesel Mustang, I think its a stupid idea. If you want a diesel Ford you buy a Mondeo, not a muscle car.
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End of the day if they do it, then so be it, all I know is when one pulls alongside my true pony muscle car they will cower in shame.

Said it before, many ecoboost owners must cringe inside when a passer-by ask them to give it a rev as they sound well carp compared to a V8, now imagine how a diesel cough tractor would sound, lol. :D

I think they will bring hybrid before diesel to be honest.
 
Could be reasonably interesting (though largely pointless) if they stick a unit in there similar to that in the X5 M50d.
 
it'll be utterly embarrassing to drive a Diesel Mustang because you'd look like a total retard............. can you imagine 3 chavs pulling up beside you in an RS and there you are in a Diesel, they'd be laughing their heads off at you :D:D
 
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Mal X said:
it'll be utterly embarrassing to drive a Diesel Mustang because you'd look like a total retard............. can you imagine 3 chavs pulling up beside you in an RS and there you are in a Diesel, they'd be laughing their heads off at you :D:D
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You say that but look at the number of diesel Focus ST's around... i've not seen a single petrol one :(
 
After dieselgate there's no way there's a diesel going in the Mustang. One thing you can actually thank VW for!
 
I'd fully expect to see a full fat mustang running a supercharged V8 by the end of the year in RHD

Ford are caning production in Aus so no more Falcon :( for those not in the know looks like a Mondeo, comes with a honking great 5l V8 with a blower attached, 496bhp and RWD

surely the aussies will be a huge market for a RHD hot mustang. ergo if they are building them for the aussies no doubt we will see them too :)
 
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I'd fully expect to see a full fat mustang running a supercharged V8 by the end of the year in RHD

Ford are caning production in Aus so no more Falcon :( for those not in the know looks like a Mondeo, comes with a honking great 5l V8 with a blower attached, 496bhp and RWD

surely the aussies will be a huge market for a RHD hot mustang. ergo if they are building them for the aussies no doubt we will see them too :)
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There most definetely won't be as no such official car even exist in the USA. Fords official cars in USA are:
Mustang GT, 2.3 Turbo, V6 NA & V8 NA
Mustang GT 350 & 350R, 5.2 V8 NA

There is no official supercharged or turbocharged V8 in the Mustang yet, not even American and it takes at least 18 months after US model launch for it to appear in EU.

Supercharged Mustangs in US at moment are done by Ford dealerships or likes of Roush and are not official Ford products.

Of course I said it before but in theory I see no reason why a UK dealership could not offer some sorted Mustangs with warranty where they just install the FRPP parts themselves to make things more interesting.
 
sovietspybob said:
You say that but look at the number of diesel Focus ST's around... i've not seen a single petrol one :(
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the Mustang is a legend, it's iconic, but the Focus is a boring nothing of a car (except the RS of course) so therefore a Diesel version suits it ok

the thing about the Mustang is, you buy the V8 or a more powerful V6 (in 2 years time) or you buy another fast car............petrolheads only look at the Mustang for its power/value for money, there is no place for a slow diesel in a line up of Muscle cars.

yea' ok the mustang already has a pathetic Ecofriendly version............**** that :D
 
But you're saying slow diesel...as I've already mentioned bmw produce a 2.3 tonne suv that can do 0 to 60 in something like 5.3 seconds...from a diesel engine.

The 335d will do 0 to 60 in 4.8seconds. That's a less powerful engine.

They are far from slow.
 
Dis86 said:
But you're saying slow diesel...as I've already mentioned bmw produce a 2.3 tonne suv that can do 0 to 60 in something like 5.3 seconds...from a diesel engine.

The 335d will do 0 to 60 in 4.8seconds. That's a less powerful engine.

They are far from slow.
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Nothing wrong with performance from a diesel but man are the engines a total bore to drive. Usable power range typically of 1500-3500rpm, they all sound total junk and do not rev. In a muscle and sports car a diesel has no place, as performance is not the only aspect of a sports and muscle car, sound, response are also major players and the V8 in the Mustang has a lovely usable and revvy powerband, even more so in the tuned and GT 350 versions. I love flooring mine in any gear from as little as 1000rpm and it pulling hard all the way to the 7500rpm limiter. :)
 
Dis86 said:
But you're saying slow diesel...as I've already mentioned bmw produce a 2.3 tonne suv that can do 0 to 60 in something like 5.3 seconds...from a diesel engine.

The 335d will do 0 to 60 in 4.8seconds. That's a less powerful engine.

They are far from slow.
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And some Diesel trains go fast too!
 
Dis86 said:
But you're saying slow diesel...as I've already mentioned bmw produce a 2.3 tonne suv that can do 0 to 60 in something like 5.3 seconds...from a diesel engine.

The 335d will do 0 to 60 in 4.8seconds. That's a less powerful engine.

They are far from slow.
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Diesel engines are actually very powerful........but it would have to be 400 or more HP to suit a Mustang and not what's in a Focus.

a Diesel has little or no popularity compared to a V8 and this would really harm sales in America, because 80% of Yanks only like V8s especially in a Muscle car.............there is nothing in the world that sounds as good as a Yank V8,(no sound on this planet i mean) and it is a brilliant engine too, especially the Chevy Big Block

i know what you're saying, but it wont work in a Mustang...........AT ALL.
 
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Gibbo said:
Nothing wrong with performance from a diesel but man are the engines a total bore to drive. Usable power range typically of 1500-3500rpm, they all sound total junk and do not rev. In a muscle and sports car a diesel has no place, as performance is not the only aspect of a sports and muscle car, sound, response are also major players and the V8 in the Mustang has a lovely usable and revvy powerband, even more so in the tuned and GT 350 versions. I love flooring mine in any gear from as little as 1000rpm and it pulling hard all the way to the 7500rpm limiter. :)
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Oh I don't disagree at all. However...the 2.3l sounds a bit pants too so Ford have set a precedent!

Let's face it as well, most manufacturers are going for turbo or supercharged engines in their performance/sports cars and despite their best efforts they just can't eliminate turbo-lagg and those limited power bands. Granted, they're nowhere near as limited as a diseasel.

The v8 is a rare and beautiful thing at the moment but the other posters saying diesels are slow is just plain inaccurate.
 
Why would Ford even consider a diesel in the Mustang? You can argue if there's merit in performance diesels but the fact is North America is the Mustang's biggest market and there is no demand there for a diesel variant. Ford wouldn't go out of their way to fit one just for the European market. It's not like they have a performance diesel engine to even put in there.

The Focus ST is a different story as the demand is there.
 
Dis86 said:
Oh I don't disagree at all. However...the 2.3l sounds a bit pants too so Ford have set a precedent!

Let's face it as well, most manufacturers are going for turbo or supercharged engines in their performance/sports cars and despite their best efforts they just can't eliminate turbo-lagg and those limited power bands. Granted, they're nowhere near as limited as a diseasel.

The v8 is a rare and beautiful thing at the moment but the other posters saying diesels are slow is just plain inaccurate.
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Turbo charged does have lag, even the latest very best, I can certainly feel it, but yes a huge improvement over past. They also do impact sound negatively, the new 4.0l V8's from Mercedes in the AMG cars still sound great, but the 6.3l AMG's sound way better.

Super chargers I actually like, no impact on throttle response, car just drives like stock lesser pedal inputs, then when you got heavy throttle or WOT just feels like engine has double in sized and they also if anything make the car sound even better, exhaust gets louder V8 tone and I like supercharger whine. Problem with superchargers is they add a lot of weight, are very expensive and are not efficient.

For me there is nothing better than an NA V8 or V10, their response, noise and power is totally addictive. :)
 
other engines sound great too, but nothing like a Yank V8...........I even liked the sound of the Type R :eek:........ but it's not nearly as nice as the sound of a WRX STI, the Subaru gets poor reviews but it's a miles better car when you drive it, it's nothing like the reviews, miles better, very similar to an Evo X with both both cars having advantages over each other..........so it's hard to tell really.
 
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Ford will slip the 2l twin turbo diesel into the mustang, they know despite the protests on here that it would be a winner with joe public who isn't a petrol head and despite dropping 30 grand on a car frets about paying more than £30 a year in road tax and wants to be told his car does 50mpg even it it will never get near that in the real world.

Audi have been pushing tarted up diesels for years now and they sell like hotcakes.
 
Joe public who isn't a petrol head will probably want a base spec German diesel with a badge. They won't want a Ford.

There's already a long waiting list for the Mustang. If they were to make a diesel for the European market because there was a demand, that list would be even longer and those people who were interested will just go to the German equivalent instead of waiting. So in all, there's no point.
 
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