Need a fun SUV - £20-£25k ish

Can't stand keyless entry or keyless start tbh. Lose my keys all the damn time lol
 
Aside from Range Rover/Land Rover approx. £350-550 for me, you need pretty deep pockets to insure many RR models around here they literally do just disappear if you turn your back.
 
Wow! You must live in a very high risk postcode area where thefts are high.
Not really sure...any of the performance estates were an absolute doddle to insure for quite sensible money. I even managed quotes on some more silly stuff like M3 Tourings etc. for reasonable costs too. The moment I changed it to any "performance" SUV, the price went mental.
 
Not really sure...any of the performance estates were an absolute doddle to insure for quite sensible money. I even managed quotes on some more silly stuff like M3 Tourings etc. for reasonable costs too. The moment I changed it to any "performance" SUV, the price went mental.


£1130 per year here for an Audi SQ5 in Surrey, inside the M25.

If you list more than one driver for the vehicle the price comes down. If you declare you have access to another car the price comes down.
Strange but true as I found out when getting quotes.

The other saving I found was to bundle the car with the house insurance at a pro rata rate for the remainder of the house policy. Some insurers give quite a good discount when doing that.
 
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£1130 per year here for an Audi SQ5 in Surrey, inside the M25.

If you list more than one driver for the vehicle the price comes down. If you declare you have access to another car the price comes down.
Strange but true as I found out when getting quotes.

The other saving I found was to bundle the car with the house insurance at a pro rata rate for the remainder of the house policy. Some insurers give quite a good discount when doing that.
I'd declared most of those things already as I my other half is on my policy and I have access to her and the kids' cars.

Maybe it's just me but £1130 to insure an SQ5 seems somewhat mental. My Arteon R Shooting Brake is faster than the SQ5, worth more cash price wise (than the 2019 SQ5/X3s I was looking at) and is only costing me £500 a year to insure.
 
2022 Tesla Model Y Long Range can be had just in budget, combined with running costs 1/10th of a petrol option (insurance may be fairly high but overall running costs will still be much lower overall).

It’s about as fun as an SUV can get with amazing practicality. Blisteringly fast when you want it to be but super smooth and quiet when you have your mum with you.

One thing to check would be whether the ride is too hard - suspension was updated around April 2023 to be a little softer.
 
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Woman's got a knackered spine and arthritis and people are recommending x m40s? Trying to finish her off?
 
As someone with a degenerative spine condition, I'd recommend anything Volvo (without R-Design suspension).
Had a 2023 XC60 (Ultimate) as a courtesy car and the heated seats, with the air suspension were beyond comfy.
 
As someone with a degenerative spine condition, I'd recommend anything Volvo (without R-Design suspension).
Had a 2023 XC60 (Ultimate) as a courtesy car and the heated seats, with the air suspension were beyond comfy.

I find the previous generation actually had better seats (honestly, they're god tier) but the suspension is indeed amazing.
 
As someone with a degenerative spine condition, I'd recommend anything Volvo (without R-Design suspension).
Had a 2023 XC60 (Ultimate) as a courtesy car and the heated seats, with the air suspension were beyond comfy.

Citroen beats them. Especially the ones with hydraulic suspension. Or even the current ones with springs and hydraulic bump stops. The cars also being relatively light too means it doesn't crash over potholes.
 
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As someone with a degenerative spine condition, I'd recommend anything Volvo (without R-Design suspension).
Had a 2023 XC60 (Ultimate) as a courtesy car and the heated seats, with the air suspension were beyond comfy.

I've test driven a few different options in the last few days and ruled out so far:

- Cupra Ateca : Nice drive and would be apart from the boot wont fit my Mums wheelchair easily. It did go in but felt like a puzzle to solve type of thing to make it fit. Also I test drove the VZ1 variant and no heated seats...WTAF.
- BMW X3 m40d : Had everything, I couldn't find a fault with it, loved the drive and it power delivery and would be perfect other than it was slightly too far above my budget than I'm comfy with.
- XC60 - Definitely ont he shortlist now. I tested the T8 R-Design and liked the drive a lot, was really comfy and the wheelchair slid in / out easily. However I hated and I mean hated the damn portraint ICE screen and everything seemed to be beeping at me all the time to alert me of stuff I'm not interested in. Lane assist beeps, speed warning beeps, car in front beeps, change of speed limit beeps, road works ahead beeps yadda yadda.. Hopefully you can turn all that off
- RAV4 - I know its not sporty in the slightest but the salesman in the garage of the XC60 had one so I took it out anyway and its a deffo nope, the engine and gearbox squeels like a pig with even a moderate amount of power and the thing leans like the tower of piza in corners
- Mini Countryman : Stood in front of one, didnt even take it out, far too low of a ride to even consider.
- Tesla Model Y : Took one out, hated it, every bit of it. Wont buy any Tesla or electric car until the point where I have no other option, they aren't for me.

The hunt continues. :)
 
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I'd declared most of those things already as I my other half is on my policy and I have access to her and the kids' cars.

Maybe it's just me but £1130 to insure an SQ5 seems somewhat mental. My Arteon R Shooting Brake is faster than the SQ5, worth more cash price wise (than the 2019 SQ5/X3s I was looking at) and is only costing me £500 a year to insure.

Doh !, I checked my payment and it was £400 for 5 months on a pro rata scale to line up with the house insurance. The £1130 was a full annual quote not bundled with anything else from the comparison websites. The £400 for 5 months works out at £960 per year when bundled with the house insurance. The quotes might be influenced by the value of the SQ5, it is a 72 plate with a decent spec level.

It is what it is and I would rather pay less but we are in a similar position to the O/P where my wife has some mobility issues and the other car, an Audi TT was challenging for her to say the least.
The SQ5 in comfort driving mode is a great improvement, the high insurance cost is balanced against better ease of access into and out of the vehicle and the much more comfortable ride.
 
I've test driven a few different options in the last few days and ruled out so far:

- Cupra Ateca : Nice drive and would be apart from the boot wont fit my Mums wheelchair easily. It did go in but felt like a puzzle to solve type of thing to make it fit. Also I test drove the VZ1 variant and no heated seats...WTAF.
- BMW X3 m40d : Had everything, I couldn't find a fault with it, loved the drive and it power delivery and would be perfect other than it was slightly too far above my budget than I'm comfy with.
- XC60 - Definitely ont he shortlist now. I tested the T8 R-Design and liked the drive a lot, was really comfy and the wheelchair slid in / out easily. However I hated and I mean hated the damn portraint ICE screen and everything seemed to be beeping at me all the time to alert me of stuff I'm not interested in. Lane assist beeps, speed warning beeps, car in front beeps, change of speed limit beeps, road works ahead beeps yadda yadda.. Hopefully you can turn all that off
- RAV4 - I know its not sporty in the slightest but the salesman in the garage of the XC60 had one so I took it out anyway and its a deffo nope, the engine and gearbox squeels like a pig with even a moderate amount of power and the thing leans like the tower of piza in corners
- Mini Countryman : Stood in front of one, didnt even take it out, far too low of a ride to even consider.
- Tesla Model Y : Took one out, hated it, every bit of it. Wont buy any Tesla or electric car until the point where I have no other option, they aren't for me.

The hunt continues. :)
I know the frustration of trying to spec a car that ticks all the boxes as a driver AND fits a wheelchair in the boot; especially my custom built, rigid frame Nitrium.

We picked a Galaxy over the XC60 (back when they were available on Motability - around 2011), as I could put the rear two seats down and literally throw my chair in fully-built, without popping the wheels off. I can leave it ready to use, or just fold the back down for better visibility.

The XC60 boot was just a fraction too short to do this (I have long legs, so my chair has quite a long profile) and the XC90 wasn't available on Motability (the Range Rover Sport & Discovery were - back when the scheme didn't have ridiculous price & power caps). I was seriously tempted by the Discovery, but it was £22k advance payment for the base spec, versus £4k for the top spec Galaxy.

We've since had two Galaxy's (2011-2016 Diesel Titanium X, 2016-2023 Ecoboost Ti-X) and then downsized slightly to the S-Max in 2023 (2.5L Hybrid, Titanium X), as the Galaxy was pulled from the scheme and replaced by the awful Transit Connect.

Not sure what we'll get next - I like the Seat Tarraco & Skoda Kodiaq (same platform), but concerned the middle row doesn't have 3 individual seats (for 3 growing kids). The Peugeot 5008 is nice, but the engines are piddly. The X-trail, Tiguan All-Space & most other "7 seat SUVs" suffer the same middle row issue as the Kodiaq...
 
Wont buy any Tesla or electric car until the point where I have no other option, they aren't for me.

Lol, what a typical rubbish response, its a power train change not life changing - its still has 4 wheels and goes. Saying they aren't for me is not even a reason. :cry:
 
Lol, what a typical rubbish response, its a power train change not life changing - its still has 4 wheels and goes. Saying they aren't for me is not even a reason. :cry:

Yes it is a reason, a perfectly valid one. I don't like them, simple as that ergo I wont buy one until I have no other option and have to. In the same way that I don't like seafood so I dont eat it.
The Tesla I drove was awful in every way for my own personal preferences. I dont want absolutely everything buried in an iPad menu, the suspension was awful, the seats uncomfortable and it was about as fun to drive as a tooth extraction.

In addition electric cars just aren't practical right now for my day to day job so even if I did like them, I still couldn't consider one.
 
I still couldn't consider one.

Couldn't is the operative word. What you mean is don't want to, as you said you don't like it, it has nothing to do with practicality etc. Let me guess you drive 300 miles a day non-stop every day, and don't have a drive way, and live in flats, and are a taxi driver at night, and you also tow a caravan while doing all these things, and a friend had a one that set on fire? Also test driving the thing most far away from the E-class is silly, I suggested an EQC, but you didn't even 'consider' it.
 
Couldn't is the operative word. What you mean is don't want to, as you said you don't like it, it has nothing to do with practicality etc. Let me guess you drive 300 miles a day non-stop every day, and don't have a drive way, and live in flats, and are a taxi driver at night, and you also tow a caravan while doing all these things, and a friend had a one that set on fire? Also test driving the thing most far away from the E-class is silly, I suggested an EQC, but you didn't even 'consider' it.

Nope, live a in a 4 bed detached house with driveway and a 7kw charger already installed. However I every other week I drive to Heathrow airport from near Sheffield to get a flight to Atlanta (about 340 mile round trip) which means I'd be either stopping on the way down to top up charge (after getting up at 2am) or on the way back after a 9hr overnight flight and zero sleep, doable....yes, paletable....no.
My E350d does the same round trip on about about half a tank of diesel, then theres the fact that I dont like electric cars on top. So they are neither practical nor likeable for me personally and while I still have the choice to not own one I choose not to, if you love em great I'm happy for you...surely not really hard to understand is it?
 
Yes it is a reason, a perfectly valid one. I don't like them, simple as that ergo I wont buy one until I have no other option and have to. In the same way that I don't like seafood so I dont eat it.

Saying you simply don't like EVs and don't want one will trigger people in a way that saying you simply don't like diesels (for example) wouldn't.
 
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