Need advice

Transform_IT said:
No, I didn't know of any mechanical issues other than the bodywork, which was only apparent after he pointed them out to me. His intention was to wrap the vehicle as he didnt like the colour. On the drive home he phoned me and said there was a vibration when doing 80mph on the motorway, I said it was likely the tyres as they were old and needed replacing which agaon was discussed prior to the sale. He said that's fine as he was buying new alloys and tyres anyway. He then messaged me a few days later saying he'd been to a tyre specialist who confirmed the two front tyres had bulges and would be the reason for the wobble.

10 days later he is now saying with the new alloys there is still a vibration and believes it's the exhaust, which makes no sense or the CV joint which has a perished boot.

He then said the car has developed a misfire and there is blue smoke and as a result the exhaust valves don't open fully. He has had the issue diagnosed and it's apparently the turbo seals. He has been told if hes replacing the seals, he may as well replace the turbos as the labour is the largest cost and whilst they are there and in bits it makes financial sense and will future proof the car. He has been quoted a minimum of £2.2k for this work. He has also said that he drove the vehicle for a bit and heard a hissing sound, and when he pulled over he popped the bonnet and the coolant tank was empty. He opened the head tank and the coolant began bubbling and was very low. None of these issues were present when the vehicle was sold. The first day he viewed it, he had it sat idling from cold for 20 mins and then i took him out in it and after 10 minutes he drove it for 20 mins. The next day when he returned to pay and collect the vehicle he had it idling from cold for 30 mins, again no smoke or running issues. He then drove it home 45 mins and then contacted me 10 days later with these issues. He did say he hadn't driven the vehicle since and this was the first day of driving it due to being away.

He has asked to either return the car, which I'm not in a position to do as the monies have been spend paying the deposit of my new house. Or, for me to pay him £1000 to help him pay for these repairs. He has said a family member who is clued up on law has advised him to do this.

Thanks.
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so if there is a problem hes ragged the car for 10 days and caused them and used the old chestnut ...i havent driven it because i was away...yeah really:)
hes just trying it on .....
 
Begbie said:
Was it a cat s?

£16k seems cheap unless it 100,000++ miles
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Sadly the market has completely fallen on its arse. It made £17,400 on ebay, but after discovering the issues with the paint, it didn't seem fair to proceed with the sale, which I told the winning buyer.

MOTORWAY and WeBuyAnyCar offered £18,000, but again, the paint can't be unseen now, so they wouldn't no doubt knock me down for that. Also, the car was sold with an issue with the amp which needs replacing. This is due to the rear wing filling with water and submerging the amp. A common fault if the drain plugs aren't kept clear.

All of this was factored in when selling the vehicle and the buyer was fully aware.
 
Send a polite but firm response.

You were happy with the car and it was correctly described to the best of my knowledge. I will not accept the car back or provide any part refund. I will not respond to any further communication from you.

For any future private car sales it is always worth buying a sim card off Ebay using that number for enquiries, and then bin it once the buyer has driven off.
 
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If he isn't prepared to deal with such issues, he shouldn't have been buying private, he should have bought from a dealer instead. Regardless, it sounds like the car was sold in good faith and he got a good deal. As said previously, I would just firmly but politely tell him sold in good faith, sorry if he's had some issues but they weren't there when you sold it, and tell him pretty much that's the end of the matter. He sounds like a chancer and a time waster and it's probably best to be very firm and matter of fact about it.
 
I’ve had a seller telling me he’s going to return the car I recently sold after two weeks etc. I replied saying he’s got a choice of getting blocked and forgotten or he can stop threatening me with returns etc. He quickly stopped. Don’t entertain his bs and stop wasting your time.
 
Transform_IT said:
No, I didn't know of any mechanical issues other than the bodywork, which was only apparent after he pointed them out to me. His intention was to wrap the vehicle as he didnt like the colour. On the drive home he phoned me and said there was a vibration when doing 80mph on the motorway, I said it was likely the tyres as they were old and needed replacing which agaon was discussed prior to the sale. He said that's fine as he was buying new alloys and tyres anyway. He then messaged me a few days later saying he'd been to a tyre specialist who confirmed the two front tyres had bulges and would be the reason for the wobble.

10 days later he is now saying with the new alloys there is still a vibration and believes it's the exhaust, which makes no sense or the CV joint which has a perished boot.

He then said the car has developed a misfire and there is blue smoke and as a result the exhaust valves don't open fully. He has had the issue diagnosed and it's apparently the turbo seals. He has been told if hes replacing the seals, he may as well replace the turbos as the labour is the largest cost and whilst they are there and in bits it makes financial sense and will future proof the car. He has been quoted a minimum of £2.2k for this work. He has also said that he drove the vehicle for a bit and heard a hissing sound, and when he pulled over he popped the bonnet and the coolant tank was empty. He opened the head tank and the coolant began bubbling and was very low. None of these issues were present when the vehicle was sold. The first day he viewed it, he had it sat idling from cold for 20 mins and then i took him out in it and after 10 minutes he drove it for 20 mins. The next day when he returned to pay and collect the vehicle he had it idling from cold for 30 mins, again no smoke or running issues. He then drove it home 45 mins and then contacted me 10 days later with these issues. He did say he hadn't driven the vehicle since and this was the first day of driving it due to being away.

He has asked to either return the car, which I'm not in a position to do as the monies have been spend paying the deposit of my new house. Or, for me to pay him £1000 to help him pay for these repairs. He has said a family member who is clued up on law has advised him to do this.

Thanks.
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You've been told what to do, stop being a simp. Block and ignore him. You owe him nothing, he is just playing you because you're letting him.
 
dlockers said:
You've been told what to do, stop being a simp. Block and ignore him. You owe him nothing, he is just playing you because you're letting him.
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Yeh, agreed.

Do NOT get drawn into conversation with him, at all. And understand the law is completely on your side with regards to this. You owe him nothing at all.

Aside from the fact that I'd bet most of these issues are made up which i reckon he does regularly to make an easy £1k every car sale, who buys a £16k BMW M4 with known issues, then complains that it's got issues?

My preference for you would be just be block and delete because I think you're someone who's at risk of being coerced into giving money the more this guy is allowed to talk to you
 
Somple reply. As other have stated remind him private sales are sold as seen. If the coolant issue was present when sale it would have shw the same signs and he would have clearly noticed low coolant levels.

Hes already admited since owning it hes been raking the car" 80mph on the motorway" is proof its above the legal speedlimit. Also why would you contribute to new turbos when all it might require is new seals. Also turbos can be had 2nd hand for under £500 on ebay.

He trying to get you to go halfers on his "upgraded turbos" . Just reply using his own words against him.

"im sorry thise issue have arose but they are not my liability as they weart present during the test drive or at time of sale. As you rightlyfull said the £1000 your asking for consider it factored in from me dropping from £17k to £16k. Good luck with your modifications and repaIRS... THEN BLOCK HIM
 
Transform_IT said:
He has asked to either return the car, which I'm not in a position to do as the monies have been spend paying the deposit of my new house. Or, for me to pay him £1000 to help him pay for these repairs. He has said a family member who is clued up on law has advised him to do this.
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Then his family member needs to get reclued up lmao!

As a Wise man once said.... I AM NOT A SHOP!

Blue smoke from turbo seals? Could've happened for any reason, I mean if he's been kicking its head in from cold and then just knocking the engine off when he gets whereever he went that aint really gonna help
 
Ignore him.

He is the issue, not you or the car. My mate is like your buyer, pain In the a"se when buying second hand.
 
Transform_IT said:
No, I didn't know of any mechanical issues other than the bodywork, which was only apparent after he pointed them out to me. His intention was to wrap the vehicle as he didnt like the colour. On the drive home he phoned me and said there was a vibration when doing 80mph on the motorway, I said it was likely the tyres as they were old and needed replacing which agaon was discussed prior to the sale. He said that's fine as he was buying new alloys and tyres anyway. He then messaged me a few days later saying he'd been to a tyre specialist who confirmed the two front tyres had bulges and would be the reason for the wobble.

10 days later he is now saying with the new alloys there is still a vibration and believes it's the exhaust, which makes no sense or the CV joint which has a perished boot.

He then said the car has developed a misfire and there is blue smoke and as a result the exhaust valves don't open fully. He has had the issue diagnosed and it's apparently the turbo seals. He has been told if hes replacing the seals, he may as well replace the turbos as the labour is the largest cost and whilst they are there and in bits it makes financial sense and will future proof the car. He has been quoted a minimum of £2.2k for this work. He has also said that he drove the vehicle for a bit and heard a hissing sound, and when he pulled over he popped the bonnet and the coolant tank was empty. He opened the head tank and the coolant began bubbling and was very low. None of these issues were present when the vehicle was sold. The first day he viewed it, he had it sat idling from cold for 20 mins and then i took him out in it and after 10 minutes he drove it for 20 mins. The next day when he returned to pay and collect the vehicle he had it idling from cold for 30 mins, again no smoke or running issues. He then drove it home 45 mins and then contacted me 10 days later with these issues. He did say he hadn't driven the vehicle since and this was the first day of driving it due to being away.

He has asked to either return the car, which I'm not in a position to do as the monies have been spend paying the deposit of my new house. Or, for me to pay him £1000 to help him pay for these repairs. He has said a family member who is clueless on law has advised him to do this.

Thanks.
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I've fixed the above for you... :D

He's clearly a chancer, you have it in writing via text/messaging if I read the thread right that he was happy with the car and its condition at the point of sale?

Personally I'd just block the idiot, its buyer beware in this sort of scenario and given he's trying the usual scare tactic of claiming to have had advice / had it inspected never mind the price he's quoting to you is way off what he claims needs doing tells you a lot about this clown.
 
wonders if , on the off chance ,the guy has another bmw same model and has swapped the dodgy parts off his onto yours, hence wanting to return it, (10 days is enough time)
or
he bought the cheapest of that model bmw knowing he was going to wrap it (hence paint)
change the wheels and tyres, change the turbos and audio (hence not bothering about amp)
probably slamming it to the ground on different suspension.

now he wants you to pay money towards his ...ahem...dream car.

i have known people in the past who would and have tried this and seem to feel private punters can be intimidated enough if they shout louder, especially if they turn up late at night with a couple of mates .
block him and for a few weeks keep coppers on speed dial.
 
Private sale, so there's not really much he can do.

It seems quite the coincidence that the £1000, which is half the repair cost brings the total he will pay down to his original offer of £15,000.
 
tom_e said:
@Transform_IT We need an update is he still crying into his new car?
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I blocked his number. Transferred the v5 last week with the date of the sale (10th July).

I have received a message today stating he wants me to phone him. I replied stating the above responses and he said:

I’m just driving atm. Please can you return my call when you get a chance. I don’t have the time to compose a long message

What should I do here? I really don't want any comeback from this joker and he strikes me as the type of person who would turn up to my address with a large group.

Thanks.
 
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