Need expert advice on building a rig better than the Alienware area 51 threadripper edition.

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As the title says, need to gather as much data on preducing a gaming rig that operates/performs better than the Alienware area 51 threadripper editon, prefessional/Expert knowledge wanted on this subject.
 
Vergil said:
As the title says, need to gather as much data on preducing a gaming rig that operates/performs better than the Alienware area 51 threadripper editon, prefessional/Expert knowledge wanted on this subject.
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might wise to copy and paste the specs of the 'said' system for those of us that are lazy like me to go view it haha , and your budget ! thread ripper leaves the impression you'll be doing a lot of rendering/editing/encoding work ?

also, happy to build yourself, or have a pre-build from OCUK / have them build it for you?
 
CPU: 3.4GHz AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X (16-core, 32MB cache, up to 4.2GHz)
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti
RAM: 32GB (DDR4 2,667MHz)
Motherboard: AMD X399
Power Supply: Alienware 1500 watt 80-plus Gold
Storage: 256GB SSD, 2TB HDD (7,200 rpm)
Optical drive: Tray-loading dual-layer Blu-ray reader
Ports (front): 2 x USB 3.1 Gen. 1 Type-A, 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C, headphone jack, microphone jack, SD card reader
Ports (rear): 6 x USB 3.1 Gen. 1 Type-A, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen. 2 Type-A, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen. 2 Type-C, 2 x USB 2.0, 3 x DisplayPort, HDMI, optical audio out, surround sound audio jacks
Connectivity: Dell 1820 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi, Bluetooth 4.1
Operating system: Windows 10
Weight: 61.73 pounds (28kg)
Size: 10.7 x 25.2 x 22.4 inches (27.2 x 63.9 x 56.9cm; W x D x H)
 
Threadripper's extra cores give very little for gaming...
Well, except no doubt whole platform eats little more power giving out more heat.
(even if extra cores are power gated there's lots of other logic)

Lot better for gaming immersion to put that extra to making sure monitor is good and good sound repropduction which is other part of gaming immersion...
Heck, £250 would give top level sound card and absolute top level headphones to be able to pick up game environment's sounds.
 
what's your budget? If you feel like throwing a ton of money at it a custom water cooled i9 7980xe and a couple Titan Xp would beat it for only 3 times the price.

and if you're looking at just gaming performance a 8700k with a nice overclock will give you higher FPS in most cases.

Though if you're just talking about similar but better, if you copy the spec but use a better motherboard and better cooling and a little overclocking you'll be able to sneak ahead. If I remember correctly the area 51 threadripper's cooling is only just about up to the task so that will be the easiest way to improve it.
 
Well as far as the specs go, I want it to perform for gaming, so for gpu I want 2 1080 ti's sli (not the founders edition version)
Budget? Not looking at limitations, want top of the line stuff.

I want it to run 4k Res gaming 60fps.

Want the best cooler for the job and basicly I want top 2 maybe 3 choices for each part going into this rig. I also need to jot down names for my notepad

if i can get a list of names for parts (every part of the rig, including the best case to put all this in.) would be appreciated.

Just a reminder, I'm not looking at budget, so don't include/recommend anything low/mid tier, high only. Only exception would be if something outperforms a high tier part.

Note- This rig is looking for ultimate performace for ultimate 4k-60fps+ and anything under that gaming without selfdestructing or turning into a jacket potato.

So no silly pointless RGB aesthetic stuff but if it comes with it, so be it.

StarShock said:
what's your budget? If you feel like throwing a ton of money at it a custom water cooled i9 7980xe and a couple Titan Xp would beat it for only 3 times the price.

and if you're looking at just gaming performance a 8700k with a nice overclock will give you higher FPS in most cases.

Though if you're just talking about similar but better, if you copy the spec but use a better motherboard and better cooling and a little overclocking you'll be able to sneak ahead. If I remember correctly the area 51 threadripper's cooling is only just about up to the task so that will be the easiest way to improve it.
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Whats the name of the best CPU cooler? is it liquid or air?
 
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MrRockliffe said:
8700K + Titan V + 16GB DDR4 @ 3200MHz

Build done
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I don't think the Titan V is very optimal despite how good a card it is, 16gb DDR4? I think I'd like 32

Thanks for the input so far, I still need a lot more data as I'm having second thoughts on some stuff now.

Gathering data to build an ultimate gaming rig.
 
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Buy the Alienware PC and don't forget to buy all Razer branded peripherals or you're doing it wrong.

Make sure there are plenty of RGB LEDs everywhere, ESPECIALLY on your headset. That's the most important part to have RGB LEDs
 
Vergil said:
I don't think the Titan V is very optimal despite how good a card it is, 16gb DDR4? I think I'd like 32
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You said best gaming performance. 32 GB will make ZERO difference to performance in gaming. The Titan V is the best card for 4K60 on the market. 8700K has significantly better IPC than the threadripper CPU.

Sources:

https://youtu.be/HnuNs_Nu46Q
https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-v-volta-gv100-gpu-review?page=3
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-coffee-lake-i7-8700k-cpu,review-34037-5.html
 
Ah. The guy from the Alienware thread.

Honestly, right now, you'd be WAY better off getting one of 8Packs delidded 8700k chips that are guaranteed to hit 5.0GHz than go out and buy a Threadripper for gaming.

Everyone has a budget. Whether it's £600 or £3000+ there is always a better way to spend that amount of money. My advice is to concentrate on the graphics card. Best on the market right now is GTX 1080Ti but consider that in spring we will be expecting the next gen graphics cards so it might be wise to put a placeholder card in until the new ones launch.

Where gaming is concerned, if you are looking at spending £600 on a CPU and £300 on a GPU or £300 on a CPU and £600 on a GPU then the most expensive GPU will grant FAR better gaming experience than the CPU.
 
MrRockliffe said:
You said best gaming performance. 32 GB will make ZERO difference to performance in gaming. The Titan V is the best card for 4K60 on the market. 8700K has significantly better IPC than the threadripper CPU.

Sources:

https://youtu.be/HnuNs_Nu46Q
https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-v-volta-gv100-gpu-review?page=3
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-coffee-lake-i7-8700k-cpu,review-34037-5.html
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forgot to mention im looking to be on par or better than an alienware area 51 threadripper and I still want 32GB for some other stuff. I also need to look into what IPC is, no idea what that is.
 
Vergil said:
forgot to mention im looking to be on par or better than an alienware area 51 threadripper and I still want 32GB for some other stuff. I also need to look into what IPC is, no idea what that is.
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Instructions per core. Basically means it can get more done.

Like having a sports car and a saloon. Both might be 2.0 litre but the sports car is just tuned to go faster. Think of it like that.
 
What im looking to spend is definately above 3k and I want to be well prepared for future stuff, i need more data but a lot to take in.

TallPaul1878 said:
Instructions per core. Basically means it can get more done.

Like having a sports car and a saloon. Both might be 2.0 litre but the sports car is just tuned to go faster. Think of it like that.
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ok, but the 8700k just seems kinda dated to whats available or will be in the future. I'm most likely wrong, is there anything better than the I7 8700k cpu?
 
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Also intel is better than amd for gaming in the long run right? With compatability issues.

MrRockliffe said:
Now I'm 100% sure troll post.
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I am legit not trolling, I'm researching this as Im typing right now on the details, this is all new to me, since ive never made my own rig before and tripple checking stuff and opinions.
 
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