Need expert advice on building a rig better than the Alienware area 51 threadripper edition.

  • CPU: So honestly right now the 8700k is the best gaming CPU. However AMD have the refresh for Ryzen/Threadripper on way. It would be worth waiting accordingly. It is likely that longer term if games go how expected to support greater core count then something like a Threadripper would be more ideal but that is only on the hope of games developing how the developers have suggested. There is no way to suggest which will be best and certainly neither would be best in every way compared to one another.
  • Motherboard: The motherboard you mention honestly is fine. Any of the brands top end are comparable so go for what you like the look off as there is minimal/no difference with them. However you will need to decide on CPU brand first and thus wait for AMD refresh before being able to suggest best mobo.
  • GPU: 1080Ti would be fine unless you hold out for the next Nvidia series. Unfortunatly AMD are not competing at the top end and what they do have is too expensive right now. Don't go multi GPU, not worth the expense.
  • Drives: If you are going for ultimate build and just want best then I wouldn't even worry about any mechanical drive now and go for large SSD storage drive or actually 2x1TB in RAID for instance to maximise performance if that is your aim
  • PSU: Don't need more than an 800 watt PSU these days. They run so efficiently and a PC power drawer even with high overclocks and similar will never get anything close to this.
  • Keyboard: Avoid corsair for keyboard is my honest view. They are fine in quality however the software is a buggy peace of rubbish and never works properly.
  • Case is dependent on looks more than anything tbh. The motherboard you are looking at are ATX so case to suit that size. Although personally an MATX board would be better in a top end selection and you could get smaller footprint.
That is honestly the best I can say with the idea of what is happening in the next month in terms of hardware. You don't mention budget but that will define a lot of the selection in how far you want to push things for yourself. Also are you interested in 4K gaming and what refresh rate as no point getting all this if you only going to play at 1080p 60hz because you not worried about more resolution.
 
humbug said:
If you are waiting.... then you also have to wait on the motherboard given that Ryzen and Intel don't use the same boards.

If you're not going to wait the ROG Strix Z370 is a good board.
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I can definately wait to see what is required for the new chips.
 
Curlyriff said:
  • CPU: So honestly right now the 8700k is the best gaming CPU. However AMD have the refresh for Ryzen/Threadripper on way. It would be worth waiting accordingly. It is likely that longer term if games go how expected to support greater core count then something like a Threadripper would be more ideal but that is only on the hope of games developing how the developers have suggested. There is no way to suggest which will be best and certainly neither would be best in every way compared to one another.
  • Motherboard: The motherboard you mention honestly is fine. Any of the brands top end are comparable so go for what you like the look off as there is minimal/no difference with them. However you will need to decide on CPU brand first and thus wait for AMD refresh before being able to suggest best mobo.
  • GPU: 1080Ti would be fine unless you hold out for the next Nvidia series. Unfortunatly AMD are not competing at the top end and what they do have is too expensive right now. Don't go multi GPU, not worth the expense.
  • Drives: If you are going for ultimate build and just want best then I wouldn't even worry about any mechanical drive now and go for large SSD storage drive or actually 2x1TB in RAID for instance to maximise performance if that is your aim
  • PSU: Don't need more than an 800 watt PSU these days. They run so efficiently and a PC power drawer even with high overclocks and similar will never get anything close to this.
  • Keyboard: Avoid corsair for keyboard is my honest view. They are fine in quality however the software is a buggy peace of rubbish and never works properly.
  • Case is dependent on looks more than anything tbh. The motherboard you are looking at are ATX so case to suit that size. Although personally an MATX board would be better in a top end selection and you could get smaller footprint.
That is honestly the best I can say with the idea of what is happening in the next month in terms of hardware. You don't mention budget but that will define a lot of the selection in how far you want to push things for yourself. Also are you interested in 4K gaming and what refresh rate as no point getting all this if you only going to play at 1080p 60hz because you not worried about more resolution.
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Well, i'm trying to be on par/Better with the Alienware Area 51 threadripper edition when it comes to gaming etc so I'm not letting the budget mess with my rig potential.

GPU- Whens the next series coming out?

Hard Drives- SSD is what Im planning to get, no smaller than 512GB M.2 PCIe

PSU- I will definately be overclocking everything i can so I want the best exactly.

Keyboard- Thanks for that, I'll consider changing that for something else.

Case- I don't really care about looks, thats a bonus. I want in depth analysis on space, air flow and all that jazz catering to performance of the overall rig I'm trying to build.
 
Vergil said:
Well, i'm trying to be on par/Better with the Alienware Area 51 threadripper edition when it comes to gaming etc so I'm not letting the budget mess with my rig potential.

GPU- Whens the next series coming out?

Hard Drives- SSD is what Im planning to get, no smaller than 512GB M.2 PCIe

PSU- I will definately be overclocking everything i can so I want the best exactly.

Keyboard- Thanks for that, I'll consider changing that for something else.

Case- I don't really care about looks, thats a bonus. I want in depth analysis on space, air flow and all that jazz catering to performance of the overall rig I'm trying to build.
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The 8700k will destroy threadripper in gaming.
I'm not sure why you alienware is the benchmark for pc gaming....
 
gavinh87 said:
The 8700k will destroy threadripper in gaming.
I'm not sure why you alienware is the benchmark for pc gaming....
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Because I originally was going to buy an Alienware Area 51 Threadripper Edition desktop and I heard it was the best pre-made desktop money can buy.
 
Brizzles said:
The best cooling will be a custom water loop, as mentioned above.

You cannot 'link' to it, as it made up of many parts dependant on your hardware choices.

Rough price would be £500 minimum for a good cpu and gpu loop[/QU
Brizzles said:
The best cooling will be a custom water loop, as mentioned above.

You cannot 'link' to it, as it made up of many parts dependant on your hardware choices.

Rough price would be £500 minimum for a good cpu and gpu loop
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You saw the rig data im trying to build right? I need names of parts to put together for the best. Really need data to put in my notepad.
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gavinh87 said:
Save your money and get a console. No offence but water cooling isn't for you. Unless you are getting it pre built
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A console? you're joking right? Why isn't water cooling for me? You trying to say putting a water-loop cooler together is harder than putting the rig together?

That I can't learn how to do it? What are you trying to say mate!? How dare you...how dare you.

lol
 
That is exactly what I am saying. Sure you can learn but it sounds like you have never built a rig before let alone built a custom loop.
A monkey can build a rig, water cooling isn't as easy as you'd think.
 
gavinh87 said:
That is exactly what I am saying. Sure you can learn but it sounds like you have never built a rig before let alone built a custom loop.
A monkey can build a rig, water cooling isn't as easy as you'd think.
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I've never built a rig before its why i'm on this site gathering information but It shouldn't be 0 to 60 difficulty to build a custom loop considering all the information that can be found on the net. I just need a little time tis all. And the name of parts I'm not completely getting from people here.
 
Depends how high you wanna clock it but that last 100-200 MHz often makes no discernible difference and comes at the expense of a huge jump in power usage and heat output. You can always add water cooling later if desired.
 
RIG DATA UPDATE

Motherboards
Rog Strix Z370 series (Waiting to see what the new Mobo better than this can do.)

GPU

(minimum will be a 1080 ti) (Placeholder until specs for higher seires is out.)
Hard drive

512GB M.2 PCIe SSD + another SSD
Monitor

(ive done little to no research here)

Memory

32GB Quad Channel DDR4 at 2666MHz
32GB Dual Channel HyperX™ DDR4 XMP at 2933MHz

Cooler
(Best custom water-loop cooler)

Power supply
(Centauri 1500W High Voltage Chassis R6 or 850W) < Im hearing some controversy with watts)

Keyboard
(need more reserch time)

Mouse
(Need more research time)

Desktop case

(Prioritizing for best performance for the parts. No research done yet.)

Processor

Intel Core i7-8700K

Still lots of holes in rig part data and currently still researching.
 
I would think the ultimate system for gaming right now is probably going to have an i9 in it over a Threadripper or i7.

32 gb of the fastest memory your chosen motherboard will support, and get at least the same number dimms as the CPU has memory channels.

Storage wise, I would go for an intel 900p 480gb drive for games and apps - this is available with an M2 connector, U2 connector or as a PCIE addon card.

Probably add a 1TB extra SSD too as 480gb might not be enough for all your stuff.
 
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