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Need help picking ram for ryzen

TeamGroup 8Pack Edition RAM is Samsung B-Die, so that's a good start. Whether you'll get 3600MHz out of Ryzen is another matter however. You may end up setting DOCP and then knocking down the RAM to 3200Mhz, 3000MHz or even slightly less depending on your particular CPU. It's good RAM though; my 3600MHz sticks run at 4133MHz (on Intel) no drama. There are some very knowledgeable Ryzen folks on here so someone will no doubt give you some proper advice soon.
 
Rainmaker said:
TeamGroup 8Pack Edition RAM is Samsung B-Die, so that's a good start. Whether you'll get 3600MHz out of Ryzen is another matter however. You may end up setting DOCP and then knocking down the RAM to 3200Mhz, 3000MHz or even slightly less depending on your particular CPU. It's good RAM though; my 3600MHz sticks run at 4133MHz (on Intel) no drama. There are some very knowledgeable Ryzen folks on here so someone will no doubt give you some proper advice soon.
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Yeah I know ryzen likes Samsung b dye + faster ram helps ryzen a lot.

If the ram doesn't work at or at least near rated speeds I'll probably return it.
 
Ryzen dram calculator is your friend. Most dimms run around 3200 depending on the IMC, but some will boot up around 3466, it's all depending on the quality of your IMC and particular board. 3600 is extremely unlikely. Most people start around 3000/3200 and work there way up and then start tighting the timings.. B die is usually best case scenario however most other good quality mem will do at least 3000 upto 3200
 
MasterOC said:
Ryzen dram calculator is your friend. Most dimms run around 3200 depending on the IMC, but some will boot up around 3466, it's all depending on the quality of your IMC and particular board. 3600 is extremely unlikely. Most people start around 3000/3200 and work there way up and then start tighting the timings.. B die is usually best case scenario however most other good quality mem will do at least 3000 upto 3200
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My Corsair pro dimms. Top out at 3066 stable with good timings .. 3200 will boot but it causes software instability at anything but extremely loose timings
 
zqa20 said:
Cpu: 2700x
Mobo: Asus x470 hero vii

Ram I'd like to buy
htps://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-8pack-edition-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-28800c16-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08q-tg.html


I've heard ryzen can be picky when it comes to ram. Will the ram work at its rated speeds on my build?
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Try that kit first since you can return it if it fails to work. It should run at 3466 with tight timings like Cl14. Another option would be the G.Skill FlareX 3200 Cl14, which I have and runs without drama at 3200 using DOCP (XMP) on an Asus X470. I've benched it up to 3533MHz.


F4-3200C14D-16GFX
 
Orange Nexus said:
Try that kit first since you can return it if it fails to work. It should run at 3466 with tight timings like Cl14. Another option would be the G.Skill FlareX 3200 Cl14, which I have and runs without drama at 3200 using DOCP (XMP) on an Asus X470. I've benched it up to 3533MHz.


F4-3200C14D-16GFX
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Ok I'll buy the 3600 ram and let you guys know the outcome
 
zqa20 said:
Quick update. The ram seems to be running at 3566mhz cl16 :).

I'll run real bench and see if it holds stable.
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Nice. Quick way to see any performance increase is by using Cinebench 15 or 20. First, set your system to optimized default, then run the bench. Next, from optimized default, set your ram to 3566, run the bench, and compare. Should get between 30 to 40 more points in Cine 15.
 
Orange Nexus said:
Nice. Quick way to see any performance increase is by using Cinebench 15 or 20. First, set your system at optimized default, then run the bench. Next, from optimized default, set your ram to 3566, run the bench, and compare. Should get between 30 to 40 more points in Cine 15.
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zqa20 said:
:)

I at try tighten the timings but idk how much that will improve gaming.
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Nah, 3566 Cl16 is fine. If you can go 3466 Cl14 and compare. The latter might be better. Really depends on your system or gpu. High-end like a 2070, you want 3466 Cl14.
 
Orange Nexus said:
Nah, 3566 Cl16 is fine. If you can go 3466 Cl14 and compare. The latter might be better. Really depends on your system or gpu. High-end like a 2070, you want 3466 Cl14.
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3600CL16 and 3400CL14 are about equivalent (faster clocks, higher latency and vice versa); so 3466CL14 should indeed be faster as it's a marginally higher clock *and* lower latency.
 
So the ram speed varies based on CPU and not motherboard? I can't get over 2933Mhz or is it 2993? Thought it was the B350 mobo limiting it.
 
willhub said:
So the ram speed varies based on CPU and not motherboard? I can't get over 2933Mhz or is it 2993? Thought it was the B350 mobo limiting it.
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It's a bit of everything but mainly the CPU's IMC and coupled memory die (and a decent board) - that combined with motherboard's BIOS implementation (why we had so many updates at the beginning) and the better quality motherboards give you more control on which bits you can play with to gain stability at higher MHz.

Still luck of the draw...

*2933Mhz - have you confirmed whether yours is Samsung b-die single-rank (can't remember)?
 
willhub said:
So the ram speed varies based on CPU and not motherboard? I can't get over 2933Mhz or is it 2993? Thought it was the B350 mobo limiting it.
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Its mainly the type of RAM. A good chance that if your ram is b-die, then it will run its manufacturer's spec using DOCP (XMP) setting in BIOS. My FlareX runs 3200 MHz CL14 on both my Asus B350 and X470 boards. Both boards are able to oc the same way - 3466MHz using the 1usmus calculator.
 
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