Need help with Bt master socket mk4 wiring from main cable in

If you bought the property I think they can be some recourse, beacuse I don't believe the previous owner can remove something like that and you can charge them for replacing the master box its fixtures and fittings and they did not own it BT does!
 
It obviously shouldn't have been removed, and I can't see why anyone would.

Chasing the previous occupier for the cost of reinstatement isn't likely to cost effective, and given the costs of moving house £140 is nothing.

If the OP can't install a new socket using the information already included in this thread, and what's readily available via a Google search, then he shouldn't be touching it in the first place.
 
Got there! It was the blue and whites, not the orange. I've just got the blue w/white and white w/blue connected to A and B, nothing else to anything else and I have the phone working and fibre. So presumbly I don't need to do anything to the 2,3,5 sockets unless I want to add extensions but as I'm running cat cable everywhere I won't need it for data, and who uses land phones any more!

Thanks for so many speedy replies everyone, I really appreciate you all trying to help, and relieved to get it done. 9 days with no internet and having chewed through my mobile data allowance by last weekend it feels such a relief to be connected again!

Again, many thanks all! :cool:
 
Master Sockets are freely available and even branded "Openreach", yet the official advice is we are not allowed to touch them. Clearly the rules are not enforced.

Nearly ten years ago I had fibre installed and a new NTE5A was installed. I want to move that socket, so I might as well replace it with an NTE5C Mk4. Easy enough technical job.

I have two remaining technical questions.

1. If I disconnect the NTE5A even for a short time will the BT system "hiccup"; and will the modem/router take awhile to re-initialise? I have the old Openreach modem and a router of my own choosing.

2. If I snip the cable to the Master Socket with side cutters as I relocate the box there is some possibility I may short the active pair (White-blue and Blue-white). Could that be an issue?
 
They can only enforce the rules if they find out. If you change it and then a have a fault that requires a visit immediately or soon after then the shiny new socket will be a bit of a giveaway. That same socket with a couple of years weathering will be less obvious.

FWIW I recently changed my mother's broadband from Virgin to Plusnet and needed to get the BT line reinstated after almost 20 years. At some point in that 20 years, my father had removed the socket and tucked the wires out of the way. When BT arrived they put a new socket on it without any comment.

1. Assuming you don't **** something up they'll never know it was disconnected and the modem and router will connect as it usually does.
2. You could short it. Unlikely to be a problem, but best avoided.

Not sure why you'd bother replacing the socket.
 
bremen1874 said:
Not sure why you'd bother replacing the socket.
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There are some reports of the 5C performing better than the 5A, and since I want to move the whole installation into the broom cupboard I though I might as well change the socket - especially since I can't find my BT tool and that is one third of the price of a tooless 5C.

All extension sockets were taken out of service years ago.

I have had line problems three times in ten years - always in the street cabinet because of clumsy fisted BT engineers!
 
Doesn't the NTE5a has screw terminals for the incoming pair rather than Krone (so no special tools required)?

Shortening the cable will probably make more difference than changing to the newer socket type.
 
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