Need help with fisheye Lense

out doors doesnt mean decent light. shooting from low down, or with a sky behind you isn't going to end well.
 
that is true, but i would preffer a fisheye and then a flash =] another noob questions UV Filter? its obviously to filter our sun light or is it?

here is the kinda pics i hope to be taking.

Photo is taking of one of my mates who has sold pictures before :)

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he's getting sloppy leaving his shadow so badly in shot like that (althoug i'm gessing it's quite old). you know leo too? check out the fish he's got on his 'blad.
 
hmm, might head to bris this weekend to see if anyone is up for getting some shots. Weather will probably suck though.

wanted to shoot this handrail:

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however the run in is pretty bad so i'm not sure how skateable it is.

Leo with his 'blad:
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The Sigma 10-20mm wouldn't work due to the distortion around the edges.. peoples faces get stretched etc. A lot of people in the trials biking scene use the tokina 10-17mm fisheye with great results. I don't think it has a 180 degree viewing angle, maybe closer to 160-170. Should be found on the bay for around £250-300 as well.
 
The Sigma 10-20mm wouldn't work due to the distortion around the edges..

Err... distortion is pretty much the most desirable feature of a lens when you're shooting skateboarding. The whole point is to make drops seem massive, rails seem ridiculously high, etc. Low angles + fisheyes are the order of the day.
 
Err... distortion is pretty much the most desirable feature of a lens when you're shooting skateboarding. The whole point is to make drops seem massive, rails seem ridiculously high, etc. Low angles + fisheyes are the order of the day.

No, distortion isn't what your after.. at least not in terms of having someone's head 3 times larger than their body. A fisheye is a much more true to scale representation of whats there. They generally have a uniform image that doesn't skew parts of the subject. The 10-20mm is a super wide angle, meaning it stretches the corners into the image rather than representing them accurately. Whilst being acceptable in landscape images this distortion ISN'T useful in an action shot.

I'm not making this up as i go along, pictures can be posted to demonstrate what i mean. The fisheye accurately replicates how we naturally distort things, in that the centre of the image appears slightly large than the outside so recreate the way things become smaller at distance. The wide angle distorts the image in a way to fit everything in, which ends up making objects in/around the outside of the image larger than the ones in the centre. This is almost the opposite effect when viewed as a flat image and it isn't as nice to look at.

Tokina fisheye... notice the centre of the image appears to be propertionally larger than the outside sections.
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Sigma 10-20mm... things in the middle are smaller proportionally than the things at the outside.
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No, distortion isn't what your after.. at least not in terms of having someone's head 3 times larger than their body.

Of course distortion is what you're after. Yes, it's the specific barrel distortion you get from a fisheye as opposed to a rectilinear ultrawide, but it's still distortion.
 
Of course distortion is what you're after. Yes, it's the specific barrel distortion you get from a fisheye as opposed to a rectilinear ultrawide, but it's still distortion.

I guess i see what you mean in respect to it being distortion from how we view it in real life. But in photography terms, distortion is having the image out of skew incorrectly, where as a fisheye tries to keep it correct in relation to other parts of the image. Its more of an effect than distortion.
 
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