Need PHPer
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furnace said:I think you're all being silly
If he even just worded the post differently, along the lines of:
"I'm using phpnuke and want to display a site in an iframe, but it'll need php to load up the sites url from the database, depending on what link the user clicked to get to the iframe page... how do I do that?"
Then I bet you wouldn't be moaning so much... it's only because he said it in a slightly more demanding way...
I've never used php nuke so don't know exactly where the desired website URL to go in the iframe will come from. Otherwise I'd help and post the code here, for everyone to see. So there'd be no personal gain, just gain for everyone who wants to know.
TBH you did pretty much bully him into saying he'd pay - telling him off for asking for it, then to counter the personal gain argument he said he'd pay, then you moaned about that too
Plus the copyright/legality of showing another site within yours... it's totally legal. To make it illegal, you'd have to load up the contents of the website and display it in your site without any of their branding, etc. An iframe will show their website exactly how it's supposed to be shown - just in a frame. No legal problems there at all.
Also, frames aren't always bad IMO - they are bad to base your website design around, but there are often some good reasons to use them, and tbh I think this is one of the good reasons to use them - when you don't want people leaving your site.
Thank you so much, was starting to doubt myself lol.
Beansprout said:Photoshop one is fun. Your request is commercial.
We're good at spotting this by now.
This is not the place for such requests. Read the FAQ.
You're lucky I'm not a moderator anymore
Commercial use using phpnuke? Don't make me laugh! I moderate a graphics section on the Legend of Mir Community Network (http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum), I wanted to give the people I help out with photoshop queries a place they could go and find tutorials and for the more experienced members a hub where they could submit them, the hosting is costing me, the domain is costing me... I'm not going to make any return, nor break even - I don't believe in ads, I'm purely doing it to help the members. I don't appreciate people making such assumptions, and in all honesty I think maybe you should review your "great spotting skills". It seems that if you were still a moderator you would have made a pretty stupid mistake.
If I were making a commercial website the last thing I would use is a common CMS, think!
I think it's disgusting that I should have to explain myself fully for people to lay off, I've been accused of rule breaking, law breaking, incompetence, ignorance. I figured OCUK was a thriving community hub that probably had people with PHP knowledge that could help me out, although it appears all that is here are a bunch of members craving for some kind of e-peen boost by picking holes in everything in the hope that they might prove someone wrong? In aid of what? A hopeful moderation spot? Reputation? Oh wait, no, you're doing a service to the community? Yeah, whatever.
End of rant.
joeyjojo said:RTM'd already
You're alright, I'm gone mate.
Don't dissapearSawell said:
This was just blown out of proportion like you say. Forgive and forget, this forum's a very useful place. Just edit out your sweary and let this thread drop for now Now look what you done, guys! I hope you're proud of yourself
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I guess we were slightly wrong, but unfortunately we're used to it especially with the way posts were worded. I certainly believed it was commercial as did others. Sowwie - hug and make-up!Sawell said:
I would help, but I don't know a thing about phpnuke unfortunately
Regardless of whether or not it's a commercial site, employing a member is still against the rules.
It might seem paradoxical at first, but surely you can see why the rule is there? We want people coming to the forums that will contribute and give their time for free, not people who come here to get paid—just as we don't want people exploiting the community by using it to get their work done.
I'm sure nobody meant to be aggressive to you, it's just the forum is awesome and I for one would like it to stay awesome
It might seem paradoxical at first, but surely you can see why the rule is there? We want people coming to the forums that will contribute and give their time for free, not people who come here to get paid—just as we don't want people exploiting the community by using it to get their work done.
I'm sure nobody meant to be aggressive to you, it's just the forum is awesome and I for one would like it to stay awesome
furnace said:Don't dissapear.This was just blown out of proportion like you say. Forgive and forget, this forum's a very useful place. Just edit out your sweary and let this thread drop for now
Now look what you done, guys! I hope you're proud of yourself
You're right
I've edited my posts to be user-friendly (I normally figure that forums have censors so my foul typing doesn't come across).Beansprout said:I guess we were slightly wrong, but unfortunately we're used to it especially with the way posts were worded. I certainly believed it was commercial as did others. Sowwie - hug and make-up!
I would help, but I don't know a thing about phpnuke unfortunately.
Looking back I realise my initial presence did seem rather commercial, I would love a hug.
robmiller said:
So by definition members that employ others in the hardware section to find them a rig for £X are breaking the rules? And people that ask for graphics to be made are breaking the rules? Sorry, but it's hardly justifiable... and if it's regarding my reasoning for offering money was clearly because I was pushed into a corner by a member claiming I couldn't ask for help because it benefited me or some such thing, which was how it came across. And then as soon as I did that I was in the wrong too, do you start to see the story here of my losing battle?
Sawell said:
I'm talking strictly about HG&P, although I fail to see how "spec me a rig" threads fall under what I said by any stretch of the imagination.
To clarify, in HG&P, this is frowned upon:
"Design me a site for free"
"Design me a site, I will pay!"
and this isn't:
"I've been working at designing a site, can someone give me a hand?"
Of course, some people are more flexible than others, but that's the general gist of what will get accepted and what won't. We're a learning resource, not a talent pool
robmiller said:I'm talking strictly about HG&P, although I fail to see how "spec me a rig" threads fall under what I said by any stretch of the imagination.
To clarify, in HG&P, this is frowned upon:
"Design me a site for free"
"Design me a site, I will pay!"
and this isn't:
"I've been working at designing a site, can someone give me a hand?"
Of course, some people are more flexible than others, but that's the general gist of what will get accepted and what won't. We're a learning resource, not a talent pool
I make sure I look out for any sticky relating to rules when I post in a forum, due to the apparent lack of rules for this one there is no reason what-so-ever any new member should be expected to know that, and taking into account that the statement is purely just a re-organising of wording and approach it seems so petty and pitiful that it's almost acceptable a moderator decided not to make a rule sticky stating that within it.
I've moderated, administered and been a member of 10s of forums in my time and although that's a relatively "nice" rule to have around, it's not amazingly practical in the digital world we live in, and what's more it needs to be stated prior to the member before he/she posts. This whole situation is completely ridiculous; it's like a mob of people hurling abuse at you in the street because you stepped on a crack; which is frowned upon where they come from.
robmiller said:If we had a dedicated mod I'm sure it'd get stickied, heh.
Also, nobody "hurled abuse" at you: keep the rhetoric out of this, if you please
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy
Dj_Jestar said:If you had of posted "This is what I've got so far - can anyone see any improvements" or similar, I would not have pounced.
Not to mention I wouldn't have got the help I needed.
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Mod feel free to lock this thread now, I've found someone who is currently taking me through it.
Sawell said:
It's actually a fairly common rule on public programming forums / irc /etc - people asking "Can someone do my homework/job for me?" get told to fluff off, people asking "I'm doing X and Y and need to get Z, where am I going wrong?" will generally be given a lot of help.
It's about contributing to the forum, questions can contribute as much as answers, as long as there is something to work out and not just a handover of the completed article.