Need to make win 8 work like win 7

We all have our preferred/individual ways of doing things - one man's meat is another man's poison, as they say.

Some people like the start menu, some don't, which is fair enough, I don't see what all the fuss is about.
 
budwozza said:
What do you use the start menu for that you can't do another way?
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Why should I do it another way when the Start Menu has been fine for years? I don't like cluttering up either my taskbar or Desktop with icons, and that isn't even a noted reason in the past for not liking the Start Screen.

The Start Menu takes up little space on your screen, doesn't flip over to another screen, taking you away from what you are doing and is quick and easy to use. Also since Vista it has included a Search feature.

Seems most people agree with me:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...gains-more-market-share-than-windows-8-and-81

As linked originally by kefan77.
 
She's not the only one that hates it. I've installed MAK key versions of win7 pro for lots of employees where I work to replace win8 on their personal laptops etc

It's an infuriating os. I get stuck at the start screen (which I think is way better than a start menu), completely confused as to how to do something simple like copy and paste files to a directory.

Wow, such tablet very touchscreen, wow
 
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linktoinsanity said:
Why should I do it another way when the Start Menu has been fine for years?
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and why should the start menu stay the same? has I keep saying everything changes at some point in life. if you really think things won't change than sorry your living on another planet. yes you and others may not like the change that has be made but you have options what to do, i.e keep with the os you already have or get used to the new OS or change the new OS to how you want it or jump over to a totally different OS..

it like if you buy your favourite food say Birds Eye Chicken Tikka Masala with Rice (just example) which you like for many years, then out of the blue they've changed something in it which maybe you and some other don't like, you would either try to get used to it or start buying a different brand. I know maybe I haven't put this in the right way but I hope you kinda understand what i'm trying to say.
 
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gareth170 said:
keep with the os you already have or get used to the new OS or change the new OS to how you want it or jump over to a totally different OS..

it like if you buy your favourite food say Birds Eye Chicken Tikka Masala with Rice (just example) which you like for many years, then out of the blue they've changed something in it which maybe you and some other don't like, you would either try to get used to it or start buying a different brand. I know maybe I haven't put this in the right way but I hope you kinda understand what i'm trying to say.
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I think we can all agree it is in Microsoft's best interests to keep customers using Windows, over say OS X or Linux.
 
gareth170 said:
it like if you buy your favourite food say Birds Eye Chicken Tikka Masala with Rice (just example) which you like for many years, then out of the blue they've changed something in it which maybe you and some other don't like, you would either try to get used to it or start buying a different brand. I know maybe I haven't put this in the right way but I hope you kinda understand what i'm trying to say.
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Exactly, just like when Coca Cola changed their formula to "New Coke" back in 1985... oh, wait
 
gareth170 said:
and why should the start menu stay the same?
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Because Microsoft are a business and selling as many products as possible for profit is their only aim, they know what people like and what people will buy but for some ideological reason are committed to forcing Metro everywhere, even in places where it makes absolutely no sense (desktop/server space).

Microsoft shareholders will be just as annoyed with them over Windows 8 as the majority of their customers.

gareth170 said:
it like if you buy your favourite food say Birds Eye Chicken Tikka Masala with Rice (just example) which you like for many years, then out of the blue they've changed something in it which maybe you and some other don't like, you would either try to get used to it or start buying a different brand. I know maybe I haven't put this in the right way but I hope you kinda understand what i'm trying to say.
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What do you think Birds Eye should do as a business if their unnecessary change in recipe means that nearly all of their customers are avoiding their product and buying other brands? the sensible thing would be to go back to what people liked.

If a chocolate company change their recipe to dog **** are you going to keep on buying it just because change is good?
 
I think your not seeing my point, but ok, I give up, all the people that don't like metro are right, MS shouldn't change things or try new ideas, bad MS, if that makes you guys happy

Anyway if MS adds a option for the old start menu then fine, if they don't then fine. it's up to them if they want to listen to the people that don't like metro, if they don't, then you guys still have options what to do.

i'm done
 
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gareth170 said:
it like if you buy your favourite food say Birds Eye Chicken Tikka Masala with Rice (just example) which you like for many years, then out of the blue they've changed something in it which maybe you and some other don't like, you would either try to get used to it or start buying a different brand. I know maybe I haven't put this in the right way but I hope you kinda understand what i'm trying to say.
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Yes, we understand perfectly what you're trying to say. But your point makes no sense from a commercial POV, what if, to use your analogy, Birds Eye did change their product and so everyone changed to a different brand?

The point is they'd never do it, it's commercial suicide. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly throw away a good proportion of their customer base just for the sake of change?

Coca Cola tried it with New Coke, and look how that went. :o

mmj_uk said:
but for some ideological reason are committed to forcing Metro everywhere, even in places where it makes absolutely no sense
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I think the answer to that is quite simple, Microsoft sees the desktop PC as a dying market and W8 is an exit stategy to get customers weaned onto the phablet GUI, and once they're familiarised the hope is they'll continue to buy Windows devices. I think that as tech geeks we tend to forget that most people in the steets simply aren't interested in desktop PC's for their own sake, my sister freely admits hers is gathering dust in the attic and she only uses her smartphone and tablet now.
 
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Blackjack Davy said:
The point is they'd never do it, it's commercial suicide. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly throw away a good proportion of their customer base just for the sake of change?
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well for example at Greggs I used to love the steak bakes for afew years but since about 7-8months they've changed something in them so now it doesn't taste as good with means I don't buy it anymore

that can be classed has just for the sake of change. but it happens.

anyway

MS didn't do it just for the sake of change. they did it because they know more and more people are getting multiple devices so their idea is to have the same layout/look on each devices, so the people would only need to lean once how to use it.... just because it's a desktop device doesn't mean the OS must have a old classic start menu.
 
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^When it's on a desktop they shouldn't rely on a non-existant touchscreen interface to control the damn thing.

Hover the mouse in the corners? wtf is that
 
OptimaLnrg said:
^When it's on a desktop they shouldn't rely on a non-existant touchscreen interface to control the damn thing.

Hover the mouse in the corners? wtf is that
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8.1 has solved that, with the start button.

the start screen/apps view works perfectly fine with the mouse. in fact if your just using your mouse the start screen/apps view reduces the need to scroll when looking for a program you want to run because it displays a lot more than just a tiny menu does and much easier to see.

this is my last post here, because it's just going around in circles. has I said above if MS adds a option for the old start menu then fine, if they don't then fine. it's up to them if they want to listen to the people that don't like metro, if they don't, then you guys still have options what to do.
 
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I really don't see how anybody can argue that the Start screen for a desktop machine isn't ridiculous. An interface that takes up the entire screen just to start a new application? That's fine on a mobile device where real estate is a concern, but not on a desktop (I don't need a full launcher on a 27" display).

I can see why W8 has done so poorly compared to W7, however it could all have been solved by simply providing a Start menu. It's a great OS when coupled with something like Classic Shell (I guess this also answers the OP's question, there are Start menu only options such as Start8 etc., personally like Classic Shell because it gives you other tweaks for Explorer, eg. shortcut bar, the ability to keep the drop-down arrows in the sidebar at all times rather than just on mouse-over, among others).
 
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