Net migration is down

[n111ck]

Good thing we have this advanced technology called statistics where these smart boffins came up with incredibly complicated formulae that no one understands to give us a fairer picture without skew. Things like, what do they call it, ah yea - median.



And besides that, a vast majority of EU migrants work in London anyway.

So you have evidence that most minimum wage workers are net contributors?

Where as a UK worker has to be on three times the minimum wage to be a net contributor?

 

[kitch9]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41036236

I'm going to guess we are going to see the spectre of wage inflation once the rent a romanian hotline no longer works.

How terrible.

Theres a few thousand immigrants in my town alone that aren't contributing much, well, that is unless you like buckets of suspect bodily excretions in doorsteps, nightly bin dipping, loud obnoxious music, fly tipping, faeces on the playground and the street drains as open toilets.

 

[D.P.]

So you have evidence that most minimum wage workers are net contributors?

Where as a UK worker has to be on three times the minimum wage to be a net contributor?

Where did I say anything about minimum wage workers?

 

[n111ck]

Where did I say anything about minimum wage workers?

You said a 'vast majority' of immigrants were net contributors but a large majority will be minimum wage fruit pickers and waitresses will they not?

 

[Uther]

Also the drop in the value of the pound and nearly 1:1 parity with the euro will be the primary factor stopping people coming

If they were sending any money back to families in Europe then they used to earn significantly more here 14 months ago.

You mean they weren't coming here because it is such a fabulous place to live?

 

[stewski]

Hopefully a lot of self loathing brits will leave in droves in 2019 to be replaced with quality immigration without affecting the governments targets.

I'll start a whipround for your flights

 

[Uther]

You said a 'vast majority' of immigrants were net contributors but a large majority will be minimum wage fruit pickers and waitresses will they not?

I'm seeing a lot of vacancies appearing in shops/coffee shops/cafes recently, and I seriously doubt the people previously working in them were net contributors.

 

[stewski]

And how is insecure work no work, what percentage of those zero hour contract people don't receive any hours at all in any week or a month for example to then realistically skew the employment figures.

Your link isn't a dispute of the official unemployment figures.

We've always had 'zero hour contracts' they were called bank staff. And it suits a lot of people. They have expanded and companies were exploiting them, but the rules have tightened up a lot and they get all the employment rights of any employee

have we always had the same level?

 

[n111ck]

I'll start a whipround for your flights

Youre the self loathing one if your SC posts are anything to go by - def not me lol.

 

[Kreeeee]

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[CREATIVE!11]

MY JERBS, THEM FOREIGNERS,

... Did I mention MY JERBS?

 

[robgmun]

You said a 'vast majority' of immigrants were net contributors but a large majority will be minimum wage fruit pickers and waitresses will they not?

What the hell does he know? He lives on the other side of the Atlantic and all he knows about the UK are numbers and stats. He's as removed from the problem as clueless about the issues on the ground as most of the Westminster elite

 

[Dis86]

have we always had the same level?

No. That's what one of my links showed. Whilst the number of employed people is increasing, "employment density" (I just made thst term up) is falling.

 

[stewski]

Youre the self loathing one if your SC posts are anything to go by - def not me lol.

Not sure why I'd spend time loathing myself when there are so many other more "worthy" people posting.

 

[D.P.]

You said a 'vast majority' of immigrants were net contributors but a large majority will be minimum wage fruit pickers and waitresses will they not?

This is where you are wrong, because a majority are actually skilled workers, a majority live in London and a majority earn above average wage, let alone minimum. They are more liekly to have a degree, have higher education levels, more professional certificates.


A minority of them are unskilled workers doing farm labour for example. And just because they are economically net contributors is entirely irrelevant because a vast majority of the UK isn't

 

[n111ck]

This is where you are wrong, because a majority are actually skilled workers, a majority live in London and a majority earn above average wage, let alone minimum. They are more liekly to have a degree, have higher education levels, more professional certificates.


A minority of them are unskilled workers doing farm labour for example. And just because they are economically net contributors is entirely irrelevant because a vast majority of the UK isn't

Ok so provide evidence if that?

 

[Hades]

This is where you are wrong, because a majority are actually skilled workers, a majority live in London and a majority earn above average wage, let alone minimum. They are more liekly to have a degree, have higher education levels, more professional certificates.


A minority of them are unskilled workers doing farm labour for example. And just because they are economically net contributors is entirely irrelevant because a vast majority of the UK isn't

Genuinely interested in some evidence on that.

Also how do you define skilled and unskilled labour? Again a genuine question.

 

[Freakbro]

Ok so provide evidence if that?

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox....outcomes-of-migrants-in-the-uk-labour-market/

If you scroll down to fig 5 showing Percentage Occupational distribution for male foreign-born and UK-born workers in 2015

It shows about 62% skilled, professional and managerial and 38% elemental, sales and processing jobs

 

[Sheff]

Even the minimum wage immigrant workers make a greater contribution, as the UK didn't have to pay for their healthcare or education in their childhood.

If we end up with retired expats immigrating and young, educated people emigrating then the problem of an aging population is exacerbated.

High net immigration was a sign of the UK economy's relatively healthy outlook, but I can understand that certain regions wouldn't see it that way due to poor investment over the years.

 

[Edrof]

Britain is a fantastic place to live and a bona fide paradise in most areas when compared to a huge portion of the rest of the planet. I love the culture, the history, the sophistication, the food - you name it. Sure, our weather is a bit rubbish but you can't have everything. As much as I love other countries like Italy, I'd never move from Britain.

I find the self-negative Brits are, without fail, those that read the newspapers and watch the news on the TV. It's all half-fabricated doom and gloom.