Network Question - Powerline - Steam Streaming-- Stuck :(.

Already stated I don't want cables running all over my house or trunking down the walls, and I have only just decorated so not chasing the walls out for one cable, will have to get a sparky back out to fault find this dodgy earth cable, all the sockets have a tight earth so I am lost, :S
 
Okay guys, i think the plot thickens.. i was having a nightmare the other day, my write and read speeds over my LAN are actually pretty awesome i think... please see attached, when i stream from my Desktop to my Steamlink it works perfect , however whenever i try and stream between 2 steam clients on windows pc's i get issues ?

I am reading at 74MBPS across the network and reading at 74 on a 100MB file as a test.
These are the figures for 2 attached powerlines in the network.
 
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In your first post you had said directly connected to a router (no powerline) you were getting 2,500 Mbs (megabits) this is exceeding a gigabit network expected bandwidth no ? , so was that figure correct ? could you repeat
(you should only need ~100Mbs for a 4k UHD blue ray / utube to stream)
maybe the network adapters on the PC's are negotiating only at 100Mbs and that is where the bottleneck is ? can you report their status ?
 
OP you seem to be crossing over with your units as well. Remember Mb is speed MB is data.
There are 8bs in 1B.

A lan cable doesn't have to be internal either.
 
Hi Jpaul, i was using the steam information diagnostic when i was streaming directly connected to the router , i thought it seemed high ? as they are only 1GBPS ports?.

According to the netgear utility, they are supposidly communicating with each other at 920mbps.

The above screenshot was using 2 powerlines over my network to transfer a file and it came back at 74mbps transfer on each , which i think is good ? but please correct me if i am wrong?

I am stuck on this one really?
I have been over to my mums house used her own powerlines and tested mine with 2 completely different machines and they both have the same problem via the steam stream client.

The weird thing is, when i use the Wifi on any machine it works perfect?

When i stream from my desktop via a powerline to a dedicated Steam Link (hardware decoder box ) via a powerline connection - it's perfect registers very fast speed no frame loss etc..

The only thing i can think is the steam client must have a bug somewhere , OR my Mums wiring also has an issue with regards to streaming overpowerlines ?

Would i still be able to transfer files at 75mbps if i had massive interference on the line?
 
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Ryancope123 said:
Hi Jpaul, i was using the steam information diagnostic when i was streaming directly connected to the router , i thought it seemed high ? as they are only 1GBPS ports?.

According to the netgear utility, they are supposidly communicating with each other at 920mbps.

The above screenshot was using 2 powerlines over my network to transfer a file and it came back at 74mbps transfer on each , which i think is good ? but please correct me if i am wrong?
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It's not good. It's very poor.

Ignore what the Netgear utility says, it's not a true measurement.

That shows that you aren't even getting 100Mbps speeds, let alone anywhere near gigabit (1000Mbps).

This is what powerlines are like I'm afraid, even on a new build the most I've seen in person is around 150Mbps. You will never get anywhere near gigabit speeds with powerline. They are a poor design which is always destined to fail.

A network cable is 8x direct channels of copper directly going to each device, powerlines can never compete with this.

For streaming games or high bitrate HD media, you want a solid gigabit connection between devices. Cat5e network cables are the way to do this.


If I do that Lan Speed Test thing, I get 850Mbps - 950Mbps. This can be achieved using a cheap (£20) gigabit switch or gigabit router, with cables running to each device.


Ask your electrician for routing advice/help.
 
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bledd said:
It's not good. It's very poor.

Ignore what the Netgear utility says, it's not a true measurement.

That shows that you aren't even getting 100Mbps speeds, let alone anywhere near gigabit (1000Mbps).

This is what powerlines are like I'm afraid, even on a new build the most I've seen in person is around 150Mbps. You will never get anywhere near gigabit speeds with powerline. They are a poor design which is always destined to fail.

A network cable is 8x direct channels of copper directly going to each device, powerlines can never compete with this.

For streaming games or high bitrate HD media, you want a solid gigabit connection between devices. Cat5e network cables are the way to do this.


If I do that Lan Speed Test thing, I get 850Mbps - 950Mbps. This can be achieved using a cheap (£20) gigabit switch or gigabit router, with cables running to each device.


Ask your electrician for routing advice/help.
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Damn it, looks like i will have to chase my walls out then !! :(

Can i ask 1 more thing , by the way i really appreciate the help.

I have a decent Asus 5Ghz router and my office is very close 1 stud wall . if i purchase a decent wireless usb stick such as the AC 56 combined, will this be sufficient for my needs?

Thank you again all.

p.s - that was a file transfer speed over the network, not the actual connection between the 2 powerlines ? that was how long it took to process a 100MB file from computer A to computer B ,and the speed the file was written at, so would i be right in saying that doesn't represent the "throughput" of the network simply the file speeds, the whole house was rewired in 2011, so it isn't old wiring.

Ry
 
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File transfer speed is throughput..

Wifi might work.

Network cables don't have to be untidy. You can use network wall ports, especially easy with stud walls
 
bledd said:
File transfer speed is throughput..

Wifi might work.

Network cables don't have to be untidy. You can use network wall ports, especially easy with stud walls
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Surely that test could never get to 500mbps+ as the hard drive has a maximum read write etc?

So i write from computer A to computer B - it would only ever get to the maximum speed the hard drive can read / write at ? how could it ever get to 1gbps im lost mate.

Just had a look - they look tidy. We had all new floors and carpets only last week, so need to be careful how i approach this one.
 
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Mbps doesn't mean MBps

1000Mbps (Gigabit) = 125MBps

Your average SSD can do 550MBps, which is about 5x the speed of gigabit.


You're confusing megabit with megabyte
 
from here
 a bit disappointing - can you send them back ?
Our average real-world speed score for these latest adapters was 105Mbps – miles below the claimed 1,200Mbps but enough to greatly improve on your home network if you rely on standard Wi-Fi. The Netgear adapters reached 102Mbps. The similar Trendnet Powerline 1200 AV2 just pipped it at 110Mbps.

You may well get even faster speeds. It all depends on your home set up, electrical wiring, and whatever else you have plugged in. to the circuit. Battery chargers and microwaves, for example, will ruin your Powerline speeds when switched on.

We have got over 400Mbps with a 1,200Mbps-rated Powerline but in a less realistic situation with the two adapters next to each other on a wall socket. Once separated by a couple of floors and 15 metres or so the envirnmental limiting factors of a house set in. But even at a real-world 100Mbps, Powerline will dramatically improve your download times in the second room.
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jpaul said:
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I will sell them on ebay - purchased 4 like a lemon !

I will have to measure the walls up when i get home and look at the best route of getting the Ethernet in, it's very awkward though and needs to go around 2 rooms.

What's more annoying is, only last week did we have the whole house re carpeted etc.

Thanks for your help buddy.
 
I tried power line once ... it was poop

Solution?
Cat5e - drilled hole from outside thru living room wall (low down near skirting board)
Stuck a wall mounted socket box and cabled up the front panel

Drilled hole thru attic wall to outside , ran cable down side of drain pipe and connected it down stairs living room

Stuck Gigabit lan switch in attic and dropped cables down thru small holes drilled in the inbuild wardrobes in house
 
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Homeplugs work great from me. The best I get out of 500Mbps adaptors across the room from server to desktop is 25MB/s which is about 200Mb/s.
 
You aren't getting 75MB/s, you're getting 75Mb/s. This difference between B(tye) and b(it) in this context really matters.

Getting 200Mbps from a set of AV500 adapters (however close they are) is getting into miracle territory. You'd usually expect 50Mbps-ish on a good day.
 
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