Never Mess with a copper :-)

mattheman said:
so an off duty police office gets hit the attacker gets the full arm of the law, yet anyone else doesnt.
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You clearly haven't yet noticed that the police are crooked.

Every child should at some stage find a wallet/purse. That way their parents can make them hand it in at a police station. Then 2 months later they can go and collect it, to find all the money has gone and they're left with some smelly piece of cloth.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
Is that like a blanket party?
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Yes, it's what it's referred to over here, or at least the couple of times I've heard the description of a perp getting a kick-in in the back of a police van has been called a black bag job, due to the black bag put over their heads before the smackdown begins...

...allegedly.
 
I doubt he will be charged with assault PC. Even if so it carries a maximum 6 months sentence which is rarely given out.

Either way it is good that he was collared for his feral ways.

Just to keep mat happy can I suggest that you amend your OP to say that the cops tasered the suspects, kicked them senseless, deleted CCTV, robbed them of their cash and placed heroin in their pockets before swanning off with the suspects girlfriends as well ?
 
qqg3 said:
Yes, it does suck like that but atleast its another one off the streets.
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No it's not! He'll be stuck in a cell whilst the paperwork is done and the relevant boxes are ticked and then he'll be let go in the morning. Most probably with nothing more than a caution, which also means another tick in the "crime solved" box!
 
Azagoth said:
No it's not! He'll be stuck in a cell whilst the paperwork is done and the relevant boxes are ticked and then he'll be let go in the morning. Most probably with nothing more than a caution, which also means another tick in the "crime solved" box!
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And do you blame the police for that or the system that they are told to adhere to ?

If it is his first offence and he admits it then why not give him a caution if he accepts it ?

If he doesn't or if he does but has a record for violence then let him have his day in court.
 
Azagoth said:
No it's not! He'll be stuck in a cell whilst the paperwork is done and the relevant boxes are ticked and then he'll be let go in the morning. Most probably with nothing more than a caution, which also means another tick in the "crime solved" box!
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Don't foget the fine:D.
 
shame i didn't join the police force wasn't it? then maybe the lazy coppers might have done something about the time i got beat up in town for no reason! oh well less paper work for them i suppose!
 
Its not assault police. It ll be just assault.

A police officer has to be in the execution of his or her duty at the time of being assaulted :) Good story though!
 
killsta said:
I'm sure he won't have been charged with assault police. The actual offence is assaulting a police constable in the execution of his duty.

a) He wasn't executing his duty
b) It's not reasonable to expect the assailant to know he was a police officer.
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This isn't true. A leading case from many years ago: a man jumped a bus queue, and was told to go to the back by a punter. Man thumps punter. Man is arrested for assaulting a police officer, as the punter was an off-duty copper. Defence is that the man didn't know know his victim was a police officer as he never said so. Defence failed - the law took the point that he shouldn't be thumping anyone, so the fact he didn't know his victim was police didn't make any difference; it's still assaulting a police officer.

Bear in mind that police officers hold the Office of Constable at all times, so technically they are never off-duty. This is why some laws (mostly the RTA) have to refer to "officer in uniform" to give authority.


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Damn you Meridian, I had just typed that exact case out to highlight a example for people on here.

But yes, Police are never 'Off-duty'.
Pretty much always have our warrant cards with us.

He will be charged with assault no doubt.

Plus if heard on the radio, a call out for assault etc and a police officer is involved then usually you will find lots will attend.
 
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Meridian said:
This isn't true. A leading case from many years ago: a man jumped a bus queue, and was told to go to the back by a punter. Man thumps punter. Man is arrested for assaulting a police officer, as the punter was an off-duty copper. Defence is that the man didn't know know his victim was a police officer as he never said so. Defence failed - the law took the point that he shouldn't be thumping anyone, so the fact he didn't know his victim was police didn't make any difference; it's still assaulting a police officer.

Bear in mind that police officers hold the Office of Constable at all times, so technically they are never off-duty. This is why some laws (mostly the RTA) have to refer to "officer in uniform" to give authority.


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I'm aware of the relevant case law :) However I've seen a fair few 'assault police' cases get dropped off before charge due to the fact the defendant didn't/couldn't have known he/she was assaulting a PC. I've even seen it happen when the PC WAS in uniform.
 
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