New 120Hz/"240Hz" VA monitor for gamers (Eizo Foris FG2421)

Was thinking of getting one but I read they have problems... Hmmm might just get one and see because there are not any other monitors that have 120hz and good contrast... colors, input lag and QC don't look great but there are not any other monitors that have anywhere near as good contrast and 120hz. Bit worried I will buy one and the colors will be bad for desktop use compared to IPS or the input lag will be too much for CS:GO or BF4... Hmmmmmmm
 
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Why cant you use distance selling regulations?

That would be a problem with this monitor because I read it is a bit of a lottery if you get a good one.
 
Ayahuasca said:
I think you'll find it is.
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Sorry but you are completely and utterly wrong on this one. 100% so. DSR has been replaced by the Consumer Contracts Regulations... but these are actually BETTER as you now get 14 days cooling off, as opposed to 7 which you got under DSR. I have no clue what has led you down the road of confusion you are clearly on but please stop misleading people and giving out bad information, it's not helpful.
 
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Legend said:
Sorry but you are completely and utterly wrong on this one. 100% so. DSR has been replaced by the Consumer Contracts Regulations... but these are actually BETTER as you now get 14 days cooling off, as opposed to 7 which you got under DSR. I have no clue what has led you down the road of confusion you are clearly on.
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Erm, maybe the people who have returned items they've used within 14 days and have been told they'll be charged a fee?

Stop being so condescending fella when it's you in the wrong.
 
Calabi said:
What is the point in a blank non information statement like that. Is it just to annoy, so the law doesnt apply anymore, why not?
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I like how you point my statement out but not his blank statement:

Legend said:
What on earth are you talking about? That's not true.
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A simple search brings up results where members have been told they'll be charged a fee for returning an item that has been opened and used.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Erm, maybe the people who have returned items they've used within 14 days and have been told they'll be charged a fee?

Stop being so condescending fella when it's you in the wrong.
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STOP LYING! Who are you?? YOU ARE WRONG!!! Please read this and stop being a complete and utter fool...

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-contracts-regulations

P.S - I am a lawyer... so I kinda know what I'm talking about sir, not that you need to be one to READ!
 
Ayahuasca said:
Stop being a fool yourself and search these very forums to see people have been told they'll be charged a fee.

PS I don't care what you are you're wrong.
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If you're being charged a fee, this is illegal, although it does depend on the EXACT circumstances. Law is the law. You are still allowed to return a product within 14 days, that is fact. I don't know why you're arguing, you're not even arguing with me, you're arguing with the LAW! I am not Judge Dredd, but if I were you'd be in BIG trouble right now. ;)
 
I'll wait for a member of staff to comment on the new regulations but as said there's posts on this very forum from people being told they can be charged a fee if the item has been used.

This is to protect the retailer as on things like graphics cards people were returning them simply for being poor overclockers and then the company needs to relist them as B grade if they aren't returned in brand new sealed condition so they were losing money.
 
Calabi said:
So according to you Ayahuasca its not a good idea to order from OCUK.
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Well, that may be, but I've read plenty of people on here returning stuff without issue. I've no idea what the specifics were of people being charged fees, but that SHOULDN'T happen unless they had particular reason to. See below from the link I posted... it's very black and white...

"The original cost of the outbound postage to you should always be refunded by the seller. The seller's terms and conditions or returns policy should state who pays the cost of returning the item. If they don't state this, then the seller has to cover the cost. In this case, you're entitled to a refund of the total amount you paid, including costs to ship the item to you, and the fee to return the item. No admin or restocking fees should be charged."

Of course, a company can tell you anything they want, charge you a fee, ask for your blood if they want to... doesn't make it legal! Know your consumer rights, that's all I can say! :)
 
Ayahuasca said:
I'll wait for a member of staff to comment on the new regulations but as said there's posts on this very forum from people being told they can be charged a fee if the item has been used.

This is to protect the retailer as on things like graphics cards people were returning them simply for being poor overclockers and then the company needs to relist them as B grade if they aren't returned in brand new sealed condition so they were losing money.
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Well there may be instances where if they could tell the product had been excessively used, overclocked etc. then a fee/reduction in refund would be permissible, as clearly such use would fall under the condition that "a deduction can be made if the value of the goods has been reduced as a result of you handling the goods more than was necessary."

Outside of this though, which OCUK would have to PROVE by the way, the law is still the law. I don't know why you're questioning that. Plus, this example of someone returning a GPU because it doesn't OC very well probably covers about 1% of all returns, if that. If someone has ragged a product and expects a full refund, it goes without saying they shouldn't get that. But that is NOT what 99% of people returning stuff are doing.
 
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I'm questioning it simply because OCUK have been dealing with some recent returns by charging a fee. Surely that's easy to see :confused:

The new regulations haven't been in place that long either, I'm sure we'll see more cases of fees being charged soon.

The post on the GPU was just an example, it's happened on other products like laptops which are over £1000.
 
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I'm questioning it simply because OCUK have been dealing with some recent returns by charging a fee. Surely that's easy to see :confused:
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Two possibilities... either they are relying on the consumers ignorance and charging a fee when they shouldn't be (you'd be surprised how many companies do this, it's actually shocking). OR they have a legitimate reason for charging a fee, or rather not providing a full refund. I can't say for sure as I don't know the specifics of each case. BUT it would be wrong for them to have a policy of charging a fee for returned products. THAT is straight up illegal.
 
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