New 4k monitor, now thinking about next upgrade steps, advice needed

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I recently bought a Samsung Odyssey Neo G85NB 32" 4K screen for use on my desktop which I mainly use for games, internet use, office work, emails on windows 11, see specs below.

I can game relatively happily but the PC is pushed hard on certain games so I am starting to plan for a system update. Where would be the most beneficial place to start? With the GPU, or the CPU? I am not beholden to intel, so I could go AMD.
  • CPU - Intel Core i9-9900K Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.0GHz Unlocked LGA1151 300 Series 95W (BX806849900K)
  • Mobo - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard MB-577-GI
  • GPU - MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GAMING Z TRIO LHR Ampere Graphics Card
  • RAM - Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G360C8K)
  • CASE - be quiet! Silent Base 601 Midi-Tower Case - Black Window CA-12H-BQ
  • PSU - Corsair RMx 750w 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (CP-9020179-UK) CA-23W-CS
  • HDD 1 - Samsung 970 PRO Polaris 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive HD-23S-SA
  • HDD 2 - Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB PCIe
  • Cooling - Noctua NH-U12A High Performance CPU Cooler
Thanks for reading.
 
You should hold fire until the release of the 5000 series GPUs from Nvidia especially as your gaming at 4k which tends to be gpu bound.

The main gain at 4k upgrading your CPU is you may see better minimums .
 
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Long term I guess you should be looking at a platform upgrade but for right now, better GPU would be better FPS/£ upgrade for 4k
 
heatonpkmassive said:
You think? FPS is dictated by CPU power and a 10gb 3080 hasn't all of a sudden become a terrible card..
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Depends on the game but anything graphically intensive, especially at 4k would be hitting the GPU bottleneck before an i9 9900k would be my guess.

Obviously would depend on the game but it's not like the 9900k is trash tier CPU either
 
ahh, the old, I upgraded to 4k, now I have to spend a **** ton of money to run it story
what you do is upto you, but I would upgrade your platform first then upgrade your gpu later, and in the meantime, after upgrading your platform, at least overclock your 3080
I had this problem with my old co 3700x computer, I tried a load of cards, but AMD seemed to have better drivers for most games, amd have *** hot drivers now-a-days
still couldn't run 4k well enough in classic wow raids, thankfully( but not for my wallet) nmy old pc died, so I got the chance to buy everything again, and spend a ** ton of money on a 4k killer system
upgrade
so yeah, upgrade your platform now and latereither buy a 5000 series gpu, or a 4090 when gpu second hand prices tank due to the release of the 5090, I'm probably going to sell my 4090, get a 5090 with some extra cash put towards it, and go 8K, so many people will be selling 4090s, it will be a proper buyers market! you might even find 4080 supers at reasonable prices too, lol
or downgrade to a nice OLED 1440p
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I'd upgrade the platform before gpu...Have a 7800x3d with a 3070ti at mo
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Actually no, 1440p. Good catch!
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with dlss on the 4k image is basically 1440p upscaled so prob not a bad shout to look at how those games perform at 1440 with a 3080/9900k and 7800x3d for example

I've done 1st option..have a 7800x3d with a 3070ti with 4k screen..personally, don't think the price performance uplift for 4000 seies was worth it so waiting for 5000 series. I see the 5000 series is pcie5 for top end cards...prob no performance differnece but if going top end 4k I'd go pcie5 mobo compatible at min
I'd wait for the intel release and 9000x3d release on 11th nov before deciding which platform to go though
 
Craig_d1 said:
I'd upgrade the platform before gpu...Have a 7800x3d with a 3070ti at mo

with dlss on the 4k image is basically 1440p upscaled so prob not a bad shout to look at how those games perform at 1440 with a 3080/9900k and 7800x3d for example

I've done 1st option..have a 7800x3d with a 3070ti with 4k screen..personally, don't think the price performance uplift for 4000 seies was worth it so waiting for 5000 series. I see the 5000 series is pcie5 for top end cards...prob no performance differnece but if going top end 4k I'd go pcie5 mobo compatible at min
I'd wait for the intel release and 9000x3d release on 11th nov before deciding which platform to go though
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The 3080 is still a great card, I only got this 4080FE because I had an unexpected bonus from work and because I wanted a new warranty and the newer features. Had I not had that little windfall, I'd still be running that 3080FE. It felt good to sell that on knowing that I was selling the buyer something pretty damn solid. I was originally going to keep it because I loved its build quality, but I couldn't actually use it as I've only the one PC.

My original answer was based upon how good I think the 3080 still is. I think it's a cracking card and that the OP can look to the 5000 series in 6-12 months time.
 
In the context of upcoming GPU releases, I guess waiting to upgrade makes sense. But 4k gaming is almost always going to be GPU limited unless you're looking at e sports titles
 
moppy89 said:
unless you're looking at e sports titles
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even then you would drop down to a lower res with a greater refresh rate possible, for 'the edge,' pubg was a breeze on at 240 refresh rate @ 1080p on an amd 5700xt nitro gpu for me
with a 3700x amd cpu for example
so if he wants very high fps in games, really he should drop down to a 1440, or even 1080p, and use that for his gaming monitor next to /in front of this 4k tv. and move it if he wants 4k for streaming/working ont the 4K TV, I think that a nice 1440 oled monitor should have been the real go to jumping to 4k with his current system was always going to be a bit meh
do you still have the chance to get a refund for the 4k TV ?
@gupott
 
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heatonpkmassive said:
The 3080 is still a great card, I only got this 4080FE because I had an unexpected bonus from work and because I wanted a new warranty and the newer features. Had I not had that little windfall, I'd still be running that 3080FE. It felt good to sell that on knowing that I was selling the buyer something pretty damn solid. I was originally going to keep it because I loved its build quality, but I couldn't actually use it as I've only the one PC.

My original answer was based upon how good I think the 3080 still is. I think it's a cracking card and that the OP can look to the 5000 series in 6-12 months time.
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totally agree...do have the 3080FE also...my son knicked it off me..it's in an older b550/5800x/32gb 3600c18 rig...which he knicked off me too
anyway, gave e areson to build anew rig, so i got the 7800x3d and took his 3070ti which was meant for him..but yes, my explanation was more for OP sake. more just to say, I'd be upgrading platform, then gpu when new ones drop...unless getting a deal, hard to justify buying a £1k+ gpu which are now 2yrs old. nvidia very much like apple in that respect..they set the price and that's it...2 yrs later still the same price (as iphone are the day before they launch the newer versions)
 
heatonpkmassive said:
I think that's my next move.
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for my son too,
I think we have settled on the
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £758.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

£758 doesn't seem too bad between his wallet and mine, probably call my half a christmas present, then see about getting the full 360 hz out of it with a gpu upgrade come black friday, lol
it has great review here too https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1e4vztf/gigabyte_aurous_fo27q3_oled_27_1440p_360hz/
 
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